1 50 110 https://oralhistory.eku.edu/files/original/cacecb5c7601c1aa22c98127ceaa8802.pdf 3ed90a0253cf57c20c517f8c34f2d2ff PDF Text Text Title: Identifier: Date: Interviewer: Project: Interview with Talton K. Stone 1986oh140 1986-10-20 William E. Ellis Eastern Kentucky University Alumni Project The following is an unrehearsed interview with Talton K. Stone. Mr. Stone is a 1928 graduate of Eastern and a long time school superintendent in Elizabethtown. The interview is conducted by William E. Ellis, Professor of History and Director of the Oral History Center of Eastern Kentucky University. The interview was conducted in the office of Mr. Stone at the Citizen's Fidelity Bank in Elizabethtown, Kentucky on October 20, 1986 at 4 p.m. WE: Let me get your full name first of all. TS: You want me to just talk just casually. Well, my full name if Talton K. Stone. And the first name has caused me all kinds of trouble because I've had it spelled 15 or 20 different ways and pronounced several different ways, but that's it. And the K part of it is K only. Birthdate is...I was born July 7, 1906 and it doesn't take you very long to figure how many score years that is that I've been on this earth. I was born in Richmond, Kentucky and my parents’ names...my father's name was R.K. Stone. Rufus K. Stone, but he went by R.K. Stone. And he was born in Madison County. And my mother's name was...she was an Odessa White. So I guess her full name would be Odessa White Stone. And she was born, I think, just across the Madison County line in Garrard County at Paint Lick. You know where that is. WE: Oh, yes. TS: And we used to visit down there later on. Visit our grandmother. Mother's dead now and I'm pretty sure that she lived in Garrard County. Where did you attend school you want to know? WE: Why don't you let me ask the questions and that way it will kind of like flow a little bit better. Where did you go to school? First off, what did your father do in Madison County? What was his line of work? TS: He was a building contractor. He built many of the school buildings and churches and public buildings around in there for a long period of time. And I have that answer down here somewhere else that the work that I did in the summer was helping him in that construction work. I was just about big enough to do a few little odds and ends. WE: Where was his....where did you live in Richmond? Where was your home located? TS: Oh, I lived in three or four different places. One in Burnam Wood. You know where that is? WE: Oh, yeah. TS: One on Third Street. One on the corner of Broadway and Third Street. One on Walnut Street. I think I maybe lived on Walnut Street when I was born. There's probably a few places. One on Second Street one time and on Third Street. �WE: Well, where did you attend school? TS: Well, there was the elementary school, the Caldwell Elementary School grades 1-8, I �believe. And then the high school, Madison High School was really....the part now that's known as the Madison High School was not there when I was in high school. Actually it was a part of the old Madison Female Institute which went out of existence and was converted into a high school. And then as the population of the town grew and the size of the school grew they felt the need for a new building and built that big new high school up on the hill. WE: So you went to school there and when did you graduate from high school? TS: Graduated from high school in 1922. Now an interesting thing and I like to mention it because I like to strongly recommend against anybody else doing it. I graduated from high school when I was 15 years old and for a variety of reasons. I never have....I don't remember back well enough to know why. I don't think my grades were that sensational, I think it had more to do with trying to make the number of kids they had fit into the number of classrooms that the schools had. But I think it's a great mistake to do that because I was constantly thrown with people that were older than I. When I graduated from high school at 15, the others in the class were 17 and 18. And that's a handicap to you in a lot of different ways. Mentally and academically and athletically, which was at that time, my prime interest in life. Football, basketball and baseball. So I just wanted to throw that in. I think it's a great mistake, unless somebody's a genius and it just would be a complete waste of time for them. I was no genius by any stretch of the imagination and I felt for several years, I think it hurt me all the way through high school and through 2 or 2 and half of my college work, before I finally began to mature enough to realize that there was a life after football, basketball, and baseball. And that I'd better be getting serious about getting ready for it. WE: So were you an athlete in high school? TS: I was an athlete in high school. Played football, basketball, and baseball. And played football, basketball, and baseball in college. And that's all right. Athletes, I loved 'em...still do. When I graduated from Eastern, I started coaching and that's all right, I got a big kick out of that. I got a big thrill out of working with boys. I think a coach can get closer to kids than the average classroom teacher can. There is a different camaraderie there between the two. And I made friends. One came down from up in Illinois yesterday to spend a little while with me and talk over old times and stuff like that. WE: Who was that? TS: Who? WE: What's his name? TS: His name was Fuller. Ep Fuller. WE: Ep Fuller. TS: Yeah, he graduated from high school when I was teaching in Carrollton. And I have a lot of kids whom I coached became doctors and lawyers, professional people. Some of importance. I �don't remember right off hand. I hadn't given any thought to this, but the point I'm making is one of the pluses of that kind of thing is the feeling of getting closer to the boys and the feeling that you could influence their life more and help them more and help shape their philosophies and that kind of thing. The weak part about it was what I mentioned a while ago, you are immature for a period of time and you...the first two years, for instance, that I was at Eastern, I made reasonable grades in high school even at that age. Not that I was...I wasn't valedictorian or salutatorian of the class, but I made, you know, average grades. The occasional "B" here and there. But in college, when I went to Eastern, the first two or two and half years of my college life, I really didn't get much of an education. The facilitates were there, the teachers were there. The teachers were trained...it was a Normal School trained to teach teachers. And I'd already decided I didn't want to be a teacher, but I wanted to be coach. In order to be a coach you had to be a teacher in those days, you see. So the faculty was all right. Wasn't a thing wrong with them. Wasn't a thing wrong with the library. Wasn't a thing wrong with the facilities. It was just me. I just wasn't mature enough for one thing. And number two, I had not been motivated properly. And I blame nobody. I just had not been motivated enough to realize that number one is academics. Of course, sometimes I don't feel too bad about that now, because a lot of people don't realize that now, that academics ought to come first. When a big six foot seven inch boy can struggle through college and then sign a contract for million dollars a year, while a guy with a ... this fellow that got his Noble Peace Prize from Vanderbilt the other day...the chances are he won't make a million dollars this year. So I don't begrudge the big tall boy his million dollars. I just think there's something wrong with the society in the priorities that they've established. That's not for me to decide, I guess. Well... WE: Why did you attend Eastern? Just because it was there? TS: It was simple. Just like the guy that climbed Mt. Everest. It was there and I wanted to play football, basketball, and baseball. And in the back of mind I already knew that I wanted to do that as much as I could and I was not large and I had no future. And of course, at that time, there was no big future in professional athletics, you see, as there is now. But I just wanted to play football, basketball, and baseball in college and then coach it. And that's the reason I went to Eastern. Eastern was there. Eastern and I came into existence at the same time, by the way, in 1906. I had made a speech at...what did they call it? They had a day over there. They asked me to come over and be....What did they have? They didn't have Layman's Day. What was it? I've got a copy of the speech I made somewhere around here to the student body. It was about the time I guess that I was chosen Outstanding Alumnus of the year. I've forgotten...It's not Layman's Day...They don't have a Layman's Day. What did they call it? WE: No, we had a 75th anniversary a few years ago. TS: No, it wasn't that. I don't think it was that. WE: It was during....you made a speech at a convocation? TS: Yeah, the student body and faculty. WE: I don't know. �TS: Oh, it's been 10 years ago, I believe, maybe longer. Very interesting. The thought that they would pick somebody like me to come back...After the kind of experience that I've told you I had. I was not the valedictorian or salutatorian. I wasn't a brilliant student. I love history and I love political science. They were my majors, but I was never what you would call an outstanding student. And it was one of the biggest thrills of my live to be invited back to Eastern to....Bob Martin was the guy who did it. When I thought that I, and in fact I believe I said so in my speech, that of all the people I knew I was the least likely that I thought they might invite back to do a thing like that. WE: You said you played sports. Who were some of the people that you played with? Who were some of your coaches? TS: George Henry was the, I suspect, the coach all the way through college. And George was later killed in an accident in a...while he was the armed forces, I believe. In a truck accident. I had an interesting experience. If you've been at Eastern very long, you know Don Combs. You know Earl Combs. Well, Earl Combs was a little older than I, but I was close enough to him....several years apart, I forgotten what it was...that I would occasional get to play with him. He had played at Eastern. He preceeded me a few years. And one year, when Earl was finishing up at Eastern, he was beginning to show signs of big league timber and they had...he went to play at the Louisville Colonels and they had an Earl Combs Day and they selected 12 or 15 fellows around Richmond who had played with Earl to go down there with him. We raised some money and bought him a shotgun or something like that and took it down there to and when he came up to bat for the first time, they called us out on the field. A group of his former teammates from Richmond, you know, to make this presentation to him. And we did and all the media were there and they made pictures and I've got some of those pictures around somewhere if I dig deeply enough. And you know when they have a special day for a guy and make a big to do about him and say all these nice things about him and then he gets up to bat, he strikes out. Combs hit a home run. So we had quite a day, see. And I kept in close contact with Earl through the years and occasionally as I was in different parts of the United States. Once in Boston, once in New York. I'd go around to the dressing room and ask for him. He'd always come out and just hadn't changed one bit. Didn't have the big head. Just as plain as an old shoe, you know. And just...you'd just start talking to him just like you had been years ago when you was up at Eastern. That's all. I had an opportunity to play ball in a...to make a tryout for team in Central League up in Ohio, but fortunately I didn't do it. I didn't think I was quite good enough to do it. And I didn't want to spend too much time on that. I thought I'd better get on with the rat killing and things that really amounted. I would have liked to have done it, if I'd been good enough, I would have. WE: Was baseball your best sport? TS: I didn't think so. I thought probably basketball was. Although, I liked them all equally well. I had the best chance for advancement into higher league in baseball than I did in basketball or football. Because it had less to do with the size. In basketball and football, I never weighed over 150 lbs. And the big boys would just chop me up for bait. And I knew that. WE: What position did you play in baseball? �TS: Shortstop. I played shortstop in high school and two years in college. And then I broke my leg playing baseball one year and played center field the rest of the time. Never was a...never was a long ball hitter. I would hit .300, .315 or 20, 25 along in there consistently. But never hit...wasn't a home run hitter or anything like that. Good fielder. I could do that all right. I understood that, but I see some of these, watching these playoff games now in the...I see some of these big league players that poke at that ball reminds me of the way that I used to poke at a curve ball when it broke away from me, you know. So they still have problems with that curve ball. WE: There still having problems, yeah... Who were your good friends when you going to school? Who were your best friends? TS: Oh, that I'd guess would be hard to say. Jesse Moberly, a cousin of mine, was a good friend and played on the football team with me. Earl Jones, who lives in Maysville. And Earl may have got his degree from the University of Kentucky. Maybe he got his A.B. degree from Eastern. I've forgotten which. He was a great basketball coach. Clayton Manness, long time...no, he's not in that picture. Henry Shiftlett was a good friend of mine and I played on a team with him a few years earlier. Rabbit Waldriff was the student manager. He was a good friend. And Ralph Gentry who is not on there. WE: I see Turkey Hughes. TS: Yeah, Turkey Hughes was a...came along. Turkey was a great baseball coach. Great athlete. In case you...Where are you from? WE: Shelbyville. TS: Shelbyville. WE: Yeah. TS: Oh, I'd better be careful. You'll catch me in some lies here. That's close enough to...We used to play Shelbyville when I coached at...started out coaching at Carrollton. And some of our...some of our...one of our keenest rivals. That was back when Bruce Daniel....do you remember Bruce Daniel and Miss Willa Ray? WE: Oh, yeah...yeah I remember. TS: And Evan Settle, Puss Greenville and those guys? WE: Oh yeah...Puss was my football coach. TS: Was he? WE: Yeah. Course, he's from Eastern. �TS: Yeah. They had...I was at Carrollton for a number of years. They had better football teams then we did at Shelbyville. They were a little bit larger and a little bit farther advanced and had played their competition was in the CKC, which was stronger than the conference that we played in. So they were...they were a little bit ahead of us. We beat them occasionally, but not often. Shelbyville usually had the edge on us in football. In basketball we did all right with them. Bruce Daniels was a good coach. Puss Greenville was, I thought, an excellent coach. Evan Settles, an excellent basketball coach. Now, Shelbyville High School is no more. WE: Yeah, it's consolidated. Yeah, I went to Shelbyville and graduated there in '58 and then, I came back in '63 to Shelby County. I coached football there for three years. TS: Oh, really? WE: Vince Hancock came here and I went to Shelby County when he came here in '63. TS: Vince is a good coach. A good coach. WE: Where is he now? TS: In Bowling Green and he's not coaching. Teaching. Lives here and drives back and forth. WE: All the way to Bowling Green? TS: I don't understand it. WE: Sheesh...that's a long way. TS: I don't understand it. WE: Who are some of the professors you remember at Eastern? TS: Well, I remember a Mr. Cowell (Calwell?) who is not a doctor. He taught math and I believe he was one of the best teachers I ever had. He made everything..everything...everything simple. He didn't take anything for granted. If you didn't understand it, he'd stop and go over it. One of the toughest teachers I had, and one that I liked exceedingly, was Smyth Parke. WE: I see him all the time. TS: He had his doctor's degree and he was one of the most brilliant men in math that I ever knew. But I thought he was a poor teacher for me because he was always over my head. He was tremendous in his knowledge in understanding the heavier math and if I had been a math major, boy, I would've sworn by him. But I had to take classes that...well, that was part of the time when I was going through football, basketball, and baseball and the academy...whatever that word is in there...on the side. But Smyth, I remember him because he was brilliant and tough and I didn't learn much from him. And it wasn't his fault. Well, I don't know..I don't know whose fault it was. But, I think he could've been, maybe, a little bit surer that he wasn't over the �head of his class. WE: What about Dr. Keith? TS: Oh, I had Dr. Keith time after time. And we heard more about his big league baseball pitching than we did his teaching, but he was a Rhodes Scholar and a brilliant guy, and knew history. I learned history from Dr. Keith. He would talk and joke for a while and then he would get down to business. Smyth Parke was...no monkey business with him, he was business all the way. WE: Did Dr. Keith ever get out and play baseball around? TS: Oh yeah, he came over and batted...practiced with us every day. And he could knock the socks off that ball. And I believe the best bunter I ever saw. WE: Really? TS: Yes sir. As big and as old as he was at that time, he could get up there and he'd whale one out to right field almost hit the University building up there on the bounce and then the next frame he could knock a bunt down the third baseline and beat it out. At his age and his size. He was about 6....Did you know him? WE: No. TS: He was about 6'5"...6 or 7. Another real good teacher there...I wish I could think....Merle.....taught economics, I believe. Real good teacher. Excellent teacher. Gave a pop quiz every day. Didn't like that, but he kept me on my toes. One of the toughest teachers I had was Dr. Doris. And at first I didn't like him. But Dr. Doris, I guess he thought in me a challenge. That that guy isn't getting anything much done here and I'm going to see if I can't motivate him. And he did in the middle of my junior year. Somehow or other, I don't remember the details, but he got me convinced of the fact that it's time I was getting an education. And up to that time, I hadn't. I'd been to college two years, but I hadn't gotten the college education. And he convinced me that I'd been wasting my time and from that time on, it was a complete turnaround. I started making the right kind of grades. From then on I was making B’s and As. And when I went on into my graduate work, I was making B’s and A’s or A’s and B’s. And he was the guy who did for me and I shall be forever turned to him. If he hadn't done it, I don't know.....I don't think I would've gone to the dogs. But he, for whatever it means, he helped make me what I was able to make of myself. And another person of a similar nature that helped do that and I'm sure you don't know her, was Miss Anna Schneeb. You ever heard of her? WE: I've heard of her, yes. TS: She was an old maid. Cross as bear. Sarcastic. And sharp as could be. I've forgotten what she taught. Psychology among other things. And she didn't have much use for the girls. Girls had...my wife was in school at the time and she just loathed Ms. Schneeb with a passion. And for some reason or another, Ms. Schneeb and I got along together real well. She had two things �that she taught me. That made a good big difference in what I was able to do. English was grammar was something that I loathed with a passion. I never learned grammar. I never learned parts of speech. How to diagram a sentence. Made me...makes me sick yet, to think about diagramming a sentence. I didn't want any part of it. I didn't see any use in it and none of it made any sense. And the same thing was true of correct spelling and of common grammatical errors. She developed what she called 12 demons. And those demons were common grammatical mistakes: I ain't done nothing. He done a good job. I seen it when it happened. The common...commonest...common grammatical mistakes, she emphasized those. And you can take about 12 or 15 of those things and become so obsessed with the importance of them and the horrendous mistakes that you're making, they improve my speech more than all the English grammar that I had. Now my wife's an English major. And if I ever...if ever I need anything about what is grammatically correct, I ask her. I say, hey, what about this? But I've gotten to the point to having to make speeches in the kind of work I was involved in, you know. I got to the point where I could get back without anybody realizing how woefully inadequate my real basic English was. And I still work at it. And she is the one who was responsible for that. I could never have gotten this far along...that sounds like bragging, I don't mean that. I probably would've gone the other direction had it been....(END OF SIDE 1) (BEGIN SIDE 2). TS: Although I am amazed still at the number of coaches who are woefully weak in their grammar and you may have observed that too as you've gone along in your school work. Well, that was one thing that Miss Schneeb did for which I shall be forever grateful. She made me conscience more than all of my other English teachers combined of speaking and writing correctly. And I did it...I learned to do it without knowing why. See without knowing the grammatical reasons for it. Well, enough of that. So I thought Miss Schneeb was a great teacher. And most of the young ladies in her class didn't think so. The other thing that she did that has been of extreme value to me, and I've talked....in fact, I've talked to some of the girls down there that I was talking to a while ago when you came up about it just the other day. And they asked me to write a little article for it for the bank newsletter that comes out every so often. She had a....this pet phrase which is so simple, it's ridiculous. But because it is simple, it's meaningful. The pet phrase was: The kind of stinger that's given determines the kind of response received. Quite simple. Anybody with half sense knows that, but it had never made any impression on me before. And she went over that time after time after time after time. And finally it dawned on me that everything you did in life was selling. Selling yourself, selling books. You selling your program. You selling something in the store. You sell an ad. You selling a house. And if you can say the right thing, if you can give the right kind of stimulus in the right tone of voice, it will determine to a ....Nothing's 100 percent, nothing's perfect, but the law of averages, it will come nearer getting you a favorable response if you initiate it in a favorable manner. Now that sounds, as I say, that sounds trivial and simple. But I think it's one of the most important things that people can learn whatever they do in whatever line of work it is. And Miss Schneeb left those two imprints on me and I think of all the things that I...this might be stretching it a little bit...but I could almost make a case out of it. But of all the things that I learned in college they were the things that were the most important. That meant the most to me and did the most for me. Now if I had been smart enough or applied myself enough to have done well in mathematics or in the academic side of the thing, it will could have been that they would have overshadowed these. But I didn't do it and these are the things that saved my bacon. They just made all the difference in the degree of success that I was able to achieve. �Whatever degree that was. I attribute a considerable amount of it to that in my coaching. It worked in my coaching tremendously. WE: How long did you coach? TS: Oh, 15 or 20 years. Had a fair degree of success in it. Not great. We won our conference championship when we were playing with...Shelbyville was in it. Anchorage and the Jefferson County schools. J-town and Okolona and those schools at that time. You probably played against them. And then I took a couple of teams to the state tournament. The last sixteen. Didn't do much in baseball, because we...baseball at that time wasn't a great big sport. It came along a bit later, or at least in our community. It did in Carrollton. But I loved it. I loved coaching. WE: When did you get into administration work? TS: I got into administration work, I guess by default or accident as a lot of coaches do. Coaches, and most of the academic teachers don't like this. A higher percentage of coaches are able to move into administration than the teachers of academic subjects and they don't think that's fair. And there's some merit to that, but there's also merit to the fact that a coach has to do several of the things that the administrator has to do. He has to establish discipline or he's not going to be much of a coach. And he has to establish teamwork or he's not going to be much of a coach. A principal or a superintendent has got to have teamwork. He's got to have the support of the people with whom he works. And he's got to have a sense of...a sense of importance. Buying and selling in equipment and stuff like that. To a less degree, but he does have it. In other words, I think many of the qualities that an administr....He's got to...a coach has to sell his program to the people of the community and an administrator has to do it. And a coach has to get the support of the parents of students and an administrator had better do that or he's in trouble. So it's not....I think there's some justification. I think some coaches who make this create a problem for the coaches who do become administrators are the ones who did excel in grammar in college and who didn't have the benefit of having Miss Schneeb to teach them the 12 demons. And coaches when they are promoted to an administrator and say "He done a good job" or "It don't make no difference no how", it doesn't take much of that to give the teachers real good ground for picking him to pieces. I don't know whether I made a good point of that or not, but I think there's much to be said. WE: Where...what different places have you been...where have you been in administration? What different places? TS: Well, I started teaching and coaching in Wallins Creek in Harlan County. Was there for two years and then I came to Carrollton in the junior high school as a junior high school teacher and assistant coach. And then as I stayed there, several times, they asked me to come up and teach in high school. I didn't want to. I liked the junior high people. But finally the time came and I said well, maybe that's a promotion. I'll go ahead with it. And then I got in high school and I don't know. I don't know how it happened. Does Ted Sanford ring a bell to you? WE: Oh, yeah. �TS: Ted came to Carrollton as superintendent. They had no principal. Ted thought we should have a principal. He and I are good friends, so he asked me if I'd like to be principal. I wasn't particularly excited about it because I liked teaching better than I thought I would the administrative thing. And when I was principal, I also taught 5 classes and principal too. And coached athletics. So I wasn't much good at any one of them. First two years, and this will be in that little chapter I write for that book if I ever get it finished. The first two years I taught school, it's a wonder I stayed with the profession. I taught 7 high school classes a day. In three of which there were 55 kids and in four of which I was not professional prepared to teach. And with...and none of them, the seven classes were the same. It wasn't English I, English II, English.....It wasn't English I, English I and English I. It was History I, History II, History III, History IV. I had seven classes. I had seven preparations. 55 in a class in three or four of the classes. And then, at the end of the day, I coached girls basketball for about an hour and half. And when I finished with them, boys basketball for about an hour and a half. And at the end of that time I dragged home to the boarding house where I was staying and ate myself to death because I was worn to exhaustion and by the time I got through eating like that after a hard day, I was so sleepy I had to fight going to sleep while I was preparing..writing out my lesson plans for the next day. I not only had to write out the questions, but the damn answers because I didn't know the answers. And so I had a very...I started to say unhappy. It wasn't. It was interesting. And I was young and didn't know much better. What things were supposed to be like. But I got to thinking sometimes, boy if this is what I got myself into. But when I got to feeling disgusted with myself, I said this is not for me. Right across the hall was the first grade. First grade teacher. Thelma Creech was her name and I was....I don't know whether it was recess or while classes were changing or something like that. I said Miss Creech, this is an impossible situation here. I said I've got 55 kids and I don't know what I'm doing and I don't....It was brutal for me, but it was criminal for them. Because I wasn't giving them anything. And she kind of smiled and said, well, yeah, that's pretty bad. Said I've got first grade. She said look at 'em back there. There are 110. This is a fact. WE: She had 110? TS: 110 first graders. All in that same room. Not for one period, not for half a day. But from 8 o'clock to whatever the time was 3 or 3:30 in the afternoon. Teacher's aides, helps, books, audio visual stuff...nothing. Boy, that was criminal. It wasn't a one room school. There were all first graders. In a one room school you can have 50 to 60 in there and have the 8th grade teach the first graders. But first graders can't very well teach first graders. So it was.... WE: This was in Carrollton? TS: No, no, that was in Wallins Creek. That was in Wallins Creek. WE: Oh, that was in Wallins Creek. In Harlan County. TS: Yeah. When I came to Carrollton, conditions was much better. WE; When you left Carrollton, where did you go? �TS: Here. I stayed in Carrollton till....for, I suspect for 25 years. And in 1953 I was elected district governor of Rotary and at the end of the year. I was selected to represent our district at the international convention, which was in Paris, France. I was away from school the last 6 or 7 weeks of school. And when I got back from that trip in the middle of the summer, about the middle of July, I guess. I found a letter on my desk from a member of the school board from Elizabethtown. Said...asked me if I'd be interested in coming to Elizabethtown as superintendent of schools. And the letter was written in May and there it was July when I was getting it. So I said, Lordy. So I wrote them a letter and I said well, I appreciate that, but I said I'm happy here. And anyway your letter was written in May and I assume by now you already have your new superintendent, but thank you anyway. Well, I got a telephone call the next day. The guy said no we haven't, we waited for you to get back. And so, we'd like to come over there and talk to you. So the whole school board came over there and spent the afternoon talking to me one day. And they sold me a bill of goods and I told my school board if they would release me and be all right about it, that I'd accept that offer at Car....where are we now?...at Elizabethtown. So I came to Elizabethtown in 1953 and was superintendent of schools for 18 years and then retired. And the day after I retired, the president of the bank down here, I don't know whether you met him or not. Lamont Hornback called me up and said, well whatcha going to do now that you've retired? I said, "Not a damn thing." I said, "I'm worn out." He said, yeah I know, but you'll get tired of that after a while. You've been too active. He said then whatcha want to do? I said well, I really don't know. Almost anything so long as it's honest and so long as it has no pressure involved. I said I've been through all the pressure I want to be. And the third thing is as long as it's something worthwhile. He said I've got just the thing for you. I said what's that? He said well I want you to come down be in the bank with us. I said well Lamont you don't know what you're talking about. I said I've had no banking experience and all I know about economics is deficit financing. When your school superintendent, that's all you know. You have a hard time making both ends meet. He laughed. He said, yeah but, you know people. You've been working with people. Groups in the community. You understand the community. You have the support of the community. You have a good repertoire with the people and with the businesses and the people that count. You've got to do that, you know, to make it in your administrative work. And he says, “I'd like for you to come with us and I'll give you an office, a secretary. I won't pay you as much as you made as superintendent of schools because you're going to have different working conditions. You can come and go as you please. You can ....if you want to take off a week, two-three weeks, whatever. No problem. Just come by and tell me where you're going so I'll know where you're going to be. And you will have no assigned duties”. I said, will you mind running that by me once more. And he laughed. And he said, yeah that's what I mean. So, it didn't take me very long to think that that.....that would enable me to kind of stay in the mainstream of things in the community that I had been working in and learned to love and liked the people. And got along, I guess, reasonably well with them. And still at the same time without that pressure. Problems come up, they didn't assign me any of those kinds of toughies. If I wanted to get into an organization or club or group or fund raising committee that was my.. and I did a lot of that. I've done that continually since I came at the bank in 1971. Oh yeah, I just got a little statement today from the bank appreciating my services. Just completed 15 years with the bank. Probably since we've been taking over by the Citizen's Fidelity in Louisville, they have a age limit for people that must retire. So I have a notion by the end of this year will be my last year full time with the bank. I may float around here and help some in some little way or something like that. But it will probably be my last regular year. Last full year. So, I've had a �real interesting life. I've had opportunities to go to the State Department of Education a couple of times as an assistant to Bob Martin. And once with Harry Sparks. And was tempted and have had opportunities to go to bigger communities and better jobs, but I'm kind of a, I guess, a sucker for sentiment. I liked it here. I like the people and I think being happy is pretty important and so I just turned those things down. And I guess that helped as I went along as superintendent that the president of a bank...which was the only bank in town at the time by the way. To have a monopoly on a bank has been an unusual situation for a long time. So I've had a real happy time and been active in Rotary as I say. Got to go to Paris and visit in Europe for 6 or 7 weeks. And as a virtue of being on the board of directors of National Education Association for 9 years, we had our meetings in Boston, Seattle, San Diego, New Orleans, Dallas, whatever. And so I got to go and do a tremendous amount of traveling within the country at...on expenses. You see that I never could have afforded to have done otherwise. And by virtue of being president of KEA one year....I've forgotten what year it was now.... we each year...the KEA sent a delegate to the World Confederation of Organized Teaching Professions which met in different countries in the world. And the time for me to go it was in Sydney, Australia. So as a result, I went to the travel agency and I said now I have my expenses paid first class from Elizabethtown to Sydney, Australia. I said I've always wanted to Hong Kong, Bangkok, Singapore, and then the Fijis and Hawaii. And I said I want you to do two things for me. I want you to figure out what first class fare would be...I got the expenses for myself, of course not my wife. And what I was gonna do was get my first class fare and supplement that with enough so I could take her and we'd both go second class or whatever you call it. Tourist class. Well, they figured that first class fare. I said figure that first class fare now from Elizabethtown as direct to Sydney Australia as you can. And then figure it from Elizabethtown and take in Hawaii, Hong Kong, Bangkok, Singapore, New Zealand, Fiji and tell me the difference in the fare. $45. I couldn't believe it. I said you're bound to be kidding. It's based not on direct shots but in general zones. If you go to anywhere in those zones and if you get out of those zones just a little bit, it costs you a little bit more. So we raped and scraped and took off. For seven weeks we saw a good part of the world and the interesting part of it. One of the most interesting experiences we ever had. And that put us in Hawaii of course, which was next to the last state that we had not been in. The other one was Alaska. And I'm on the....have been for several years...on the Board of Trustees for the Teacher Retirement System in Kentucky. And we hold international meetings. Just got back from Hawaii last week, I think, sometime from a meeting over there. But a few years ago we had a meeting in Seattle. And I said, by golly, while we're this close....And I talked to our executive secretary...I said if you think it's all right, I'm gonna play hooky one day and leave one afternoon and go to Juneau, Alaska and spend the night up there and the rest of the day...take a day off...Cause, they usually have a day free for running around and golf and that kinda of thing at these conventions anyway. And that was the day I took off...I'd forgotten that. So I made Alaska. So now we have been in all 50 of the states and about 15 or 20 of the foreign countries. So that's been one of the interesting parts of our life. WE: Let me ask you a couple more questions. TS: Yeah, it's about time you're getting ready to go. WE: Yeah, just a couple more things. What was the greatest influence of Eastern on your life? You've mentioned several teachers, but overall what was the general influence of Eastern on �your life? TS: Teachers. Outside of that I don't know. I got.....I guess I got interested in seeing Eastern include...Bob Martin came along and started building buildings like crazy and athletics and other extracurricular activities caused me to give a lot of thought to the fact that the alumni spirit of Western was so much superior to ours that that bugged me. And I wanted to do something to turn that around. And I think of...I think Bob Martin probably did more in that respect because of his....He did two things. He built buildings. Increased the facilities. Never have figured out how he did it money wise. But he also managed, I thought, improve the caliber and quality of the teachers that he brought in to fill the jobs that he built those buildings for. He looks like a big ole sloppy..doesn't look smart. Doesn't look like he'd be sharp. But he's got a keen mind. He's got vision like nobody else I never knew. I'm fumbling now, you see, because I don't know the answer to that. But that was a fact. And it finally got to the point where I felt that we could be as proud of Eastern as the Western had always been proud of Western. (END OF SIDE 2) (BEGIN SIDE 3) The following is a continuation of the interview with Talton Stone. Side 3 only. TS: There was as I say a time, the first few years of my time at Eastern, I sensed that you didn't have to read it in the paper, you could tell that the alumni, the spirit of Western and its graduates were far superior to that of Eastern. And that bugged me to no end. I didn't like that. And what little I did, and I don't remember any of the specific things, but I remember that Bob Martin played a large part in creating the conditions and causing academics and the extracurricular activities....And he did more things. He did a better job of involving the graduates of Eastern to become...to remain interested in Eastern and come back to the campus and participate in activities. For a while after I graduated from Eastern, I never heard from anybody over at Eastern at all. Heck, I was just another guy, another graduated. Gone. Bye-bye. Did you graduate from Eastern? WE: Got a master's there. TS: Master's there. And then, about the time that Bob came along and started his building program and improving the physical facilitates and improving the quality of the faculty, he also...he had frequent...he created frequent excuses to get the graduates to come back for a meeting. Had them up at the alumni hall or wherever you have those things and have them for a meal. And honor the, well, the various classes or various groups. I got a picture....I got a room in my house, that's giving me fits by the way now, because I'm going to have to figure out some way to take it with me to my new place. It's a couple of walls about all around here like this of certificates and trophies and medals. You know when you do school work, administrative work and do a lot of free work what they give you instead of money is trophies and certificates. And a lot of people that doesn't mean anything to, but I prize them very highly. For several years, I'd put 'em away in a drawer somewhere in the desk. Finally my wife said one time, said let's get these things out and I'll fix you up a room up here. So we got those things all around the room up there and we've got several pictures of Bob Martin handing me some kind of plague. I don't know what it was, but it was a plague. Some kind of little honor. He may have contrived it. I don't know. And then the outstanding alumnus award and other things. I don't remember what �they were. But they were things that got the graduates, the alumni, back interested. And of course, I guess about that time, maybe Spider Thurman came along. Mary Frances.....Mary Frances Richards was in...She was from Richmond. I knew her and her family. And she works some at it. And those things, I think, will turn the alumni spirit, the love...That's kinda getting a little mushy....but the feeling for the school from which you've graduated, it began to turn from an apologetic kind of thing into "Hell, we're as good as they are!" We're outdoing them. We're doing things that they're not doing now. Our quality has risen and we've got more reason to be proud of our school. Now incidentally, until Funderburk...Is that his name?.....came. I'm beginning to hear from him now. I had a letter yesterday, day before. Two or three times. He's trying to, I think, ....of course, what he's trying to do is get some work out of us. I understand that a lot and I know the reason back of it. But at least, he's trying to keep us...our relationships with the alma mater closer. And when you do that, you feel more inclined to help and be vocal and helpful and do things. If lauding's it, okay, so be it. Everybody does it. So..I don't know whether that was the kind of answer you were expecting or not, but that turned....that increased my love and respect and regard for Eastern hundredfold. When for a long time, it was....I was on the defensive. And couldn't brag because I didn't feel like there was a lot to brag about, but there is now. We've got as good physical facilities as any of the...maybe better than Western, Murray, Morehead, or whatever. And I think the quality of our faculty is as good. I think we're doing things that we use to would not have done. One comes to my mind. The law enforcement program that they have over there. That's kind of new. We're the only one in the state that has it. We've got other things like that that don't come to mind right now. So I'm a....I love the University of Kentucky. I got my masters at the University of Kentucky. I love the University of Kentucky, but the foundation that made it possible to do what little I've done and it's been precious little, but the foundation for that was...I got at Eastern. WE: I want to thank you very much for talking to me. I think that's a good place to stop. TS: I think that's a good place to stop. (END OF INTERVIEW) � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource EKU Alumni Description An account of the resource Alumni from Eastern Kentucky University before 1940 discuss their personal and family histories, their careers, their student days, the university, its clubs and organizations, and the changes it has experienced over the years. Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Stone, Talton Location The location of the interview. Elizabethtown, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 1:09:56 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 00:00 - 01:20 Introduction. 01:20 - 04:10 Talton K. Stone born July 7, 1906, Richmond, Kentucky. Father R.K. Stone and Mother Odessa White Stone. 04:10 - 10:00 Discussed educational background. High School graduate at age 15. 10:00 - 14:00 Continued with College years as athlete. 14:00 - 18:30 Mentions coaches and student acquaintances while in college - George Hembree also Earl Combs with great respect. 18:30 - 22:00 Discussed friends while in college, Earl Jones, Clayton Mainus and Turkey Hughes. 22:00 - 31:30 Mentions Professors Caldwell, Smith Park, Dr. Keith, Dr. Dorris. 31:30 - 36:00 Continues discussing faculty members. 36:00 - 38:00 Discussed coaching. 38:00 - 43:00 Discussed getting into Administration. 43:00 - 48:00 Mentions Ted Sanford, Supt., in Carrolton School System as being close friend. Also discusses teaching and coaching experiences. 48:00 - 52:00 After retiring as Supt., of Schools, started working in Bank. 52:00 - 58:00 Talks of great opportunities offered and his participation in organizations and clubs. Also talks of traveling. 58:00 - 63:00 Discusses greatest influence of Eastern on his life. He feels "Teachers", Athletics, Robert Martin did more because of building Buildings to improve the caliber and quality of teachers brought in to teach. 63:00 - 69:00 Reminiscences of years at Eastern. Feels Robert Martin did more to influence his life and all alumni for love and respect for Eastern. He feels his foundation for life and accomplishments are due to his going to Eastern. 69:00 - 72:00 Talks of Law Enforcement Program. Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. none Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Talton Stone Description An account of the resource This is an unrehearsed taped interview with Talton K. Stone an Alumnus of Eastern Kentucky University, graduating in 1928. A long time school superintendent of Elizabethtown, Kentucky. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 10/20/1986 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1986 OH 140 education EKU Robert R. Martin https://oralhistory.eku.edu/files/original/4737219f635490017ab326a96b976e8d.jpg 975e8d159214988f0d97fa567a4f9e17 https://oralhistory.eku.edu/files/original/2d53f7113558f889581121f1cdad1f5a.mp3 2b04bb83706862277e0958f65e15b51d Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource EKU Alumni Description An account of the resource Alumni from Eastern Kentucky University before 1940 discuss their personal and family histories, their careers, their student days, the university, its clubs and organizations, and the changes it has experienced over the years. Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Jones, Harold Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Moody, Salem Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) :41:12 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 00:00 - 01:40 Introduction. 01:40 - 02:10 Salem W. Moody, attorney born August 18, 1905, Paint Lick, Ky. Parents were George Moody and Margarette Noe Moody. 02:10 - 04:30 Discussed educational background. Graduated 1935 Eastern State Normal School. 04:30 - 10:00 Discussed Dr. Donovan and faculty. 10:00 - 14:00 Discussed classmates and friends. 14:00 - 15:00 Discussed experiences in teaching. 15:00 - 16:00 Mentions Robert Martin as classmate, President and still close friend. 16:00 - 19:30 Discussed changes in Eastern campus, also football games and players. 19:30 - 25:00 Discussed change in law profession. 25:00 - 29:00 County attorney for sixteen years, discussed memorable cases. 29:00 - 32:00 Mentions several cases. 32:00 - 35:00 Discussed participation in clubs on Eastern campus. 35:00 - 37:00 Discussed influence Eastern had on his life. 37:00 - 40:00 Discussed U.K. Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. none Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1987 OH 006 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 11/5/1986 Description An account of the resource This is an unrehearsed taped interview with Salem Moody, Attorney and a 1933 graduate of Eastern State Normal School. Mr. Moody discusses his college years. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Salem Moody attorneys EKU Robert R. Martin https://oralhistory.eku.edu/files/original/92cb1b40be51f8027f93a71477d1c847.pdf f939edaf142515150e454b7c1e551db1 PDF Text Text The following is an unrehearsed taped interview with Martha K. Barksdale, a 1933 graduate of Eastern who went on to work many years in administrative offices at Eastern. The interview was conducted by Dr. William E. Ellis, Director of the Oral History Center at Eastern Kentucky University. The interview took place at the Oral History Center on November 17, 1987 at 2 p.m. WE: Full name first. MB: My what? WE: Let me get your full name. MB: Full name? WE: Full name. MB: Martha Jane Fulton Barksdale. Mrs. Milton Kendall, Sr. if you want it formerly. I can even give you a DAR number which I don't think you need. WE: When's your birthday? MB: September 11, 1913. WE: Where were you born? MB: Cloveport, Kentucky in Breckinridge County. I'm a hill over on the Kentucky River. WE: On the Kentucky River? MB: Over the Kentucky River up there. But, Dad..my father went to Corbin, Kentucky as superintendent of schools when I was about 3...3 1/2, so really I was raised in Corbin. Came here from Corbin High. But, as I said, I've known about Eastern, I think, ever since I could breathe because Dad was a 1910 graduate and mother attended in 1908 and 1909. So, even when I was in high school, they would come back to see his old professor, Bud Smith.... WE: Bud Smith...I've heard him called Bud Smith. MB: So, Elmer Glass's grandpa. WE: Oh, I didn't know that. MB: In case you didn't know that, you know now. Actually, as I said, I known about Eastern because family talked about it and then too, very good friends, Dr. Engle....Fred Engle, my teachers, and also family friends made sure that I came to Eastern myself when I graduated. WE: What year did you start at Eastern? �MB: I started in 1929 and I was 15 actually when I started and soon became sixteen. See, my birthday September 11, so I was 15 years old. Now they talk about that is too young. It was. WE: How many...did you skip some years of school? MB: Two. WE: Two. MB: Two grades. Twice. It pushed me ahead at school. Now, I didn't....I saw that my son did not get this pushed ahead. Ken took the regular steps along. But my father's mature enough to know not to stop me so I arrived along with all the trunks out there at the railroad station. Of course, everybody came by train then. For if you had cars on campus, I think, the night watchmen, Mr. Longhorn(?), he was married and he was allowed a car. But you came by train and school picked up our trunks out there. Brought us and put us out in front of Burnam Hall which is where I lived. Had two girls dorms, Burnam and Sullivan. I came with several friends from Corbin I had coming on to Eastern, too. In fact, my roommate, this girl that we even celebrated our six year birthday parties together, so she's a retired teacher in Florida. WE: What's her name? MB: Margaret Manning, she was then. Everybody told me many years ago, she would always have a man. She'd been married 7 times. WE: Seven times?!! MB: Went back to her fourth husband's name. Goes by his name now. So....that's right! I promised Mick here I would waggle no skeletons. So then...anybody's that's been here since 1929, cause I didn't retire from Eastern until 1976 and you figure that's a number of years in there. I majored in Latin and up until the day I left the school, Bob Martin would call me into the office, "Martha, I want to know what this is. I want to know that says." I translated Latin from school entirely, although I never taught except in student teaching. And English and old fashioned commerce, they called it then. Which was business and which I really used. My dad went to Corbin as I said, as superintendent of schools and then he finished up his law degree at the University of Kentucky and became a lawyer down in Corbin. And I used to go into court with him...Corbin itself is in three counties. So dad practiced in Knox County and Laurel County and Whitley County. We lived in the Whitley side, but I had friends in all three sections of town. So, I was in and out of courts in the summer time. Took my typing and shorthand earlier and I took court depositions. I enjoyed that very much. And it gave me spending money for school. Cause remember that was the depression. WE: How bad was the depression? MB: For us not as bad as for some. I had friends that when the railroads laid off people...See Corbin was a railroad town. It's a new town. It's not old like Richmond, or Danville, or Harrodsburg. It's...it's a new town and very different from some towns because when I was there �and now there's been great change. But there was exactly two black people in town. Uncle Dennis and Aunt Emma. They both worked for the railroad company down there at the railroad station. And that was all. So we never learned a black's place because there was no reason to have it. The town is new. There were working people now and they had the railroad strike. I had remembrances of that and children could go out and I had to go walk to the drugstore late evening one time to get medicine for my mother and father. And I can remember the big guns up and down Main Street. I was scared, but a child could get out when an adult couldn't. WE: What year was that? MB: mmmm...I'd say it was back in the '20's....early '20's. WE: About how old were you then? MB: I would say 10...10 or 11. I really...I just remember. And then, of course, a famous night after they brought scabs in I go back to that. Scabs in a man of the town decided to take it in his own hands. And I can remember mother telling us, "Lay down on the floor, you children!" I had a younger brother and sister. "Lay down on the floor!" Dad and Mom joined all the town, took 'em down to the railroad station and shoved 'em on every train that came through..got a load and moved 'em out of town. That was violence without actually in it. I can remember it. So I came to Eastern 15 going on 16 and Dr. Engle, whom I visited when he lived in Winchester and when he lived in Richmond when I was in high school, we were friends. Well, Ewell Cobb's mother was raised by Dr. Engle on Pine Hill and she was a good friend of mine. See I known her, so I visited her and therefore was in their home long before Fred Allen was born. He wasn't even around. In fact, it was me was elated that Fred Allen came along because Kate was older than I was. She was the one I chose to go to DAR Continental Congress with me. Never regretted that. So Dr. Engle took me through the ropes of registration. And, oh I can say it was nothing now, of course. See I followed the evolution, you think how many years I've been here, nothing as hard seemed at first, or for many years because I had a boy working...student working in the office one time and Ken had seven people that had fainted in line trying to register because they ran 'em through. You had to go to every teacher, sign up, get the card, stand in very long lines, get up at 4 o'clock in the morning to get your place in line. So really, there's been improvements of which I heartily endorsed and when I left the list, well, it come to pass when I left, my choice...one vote was for heaven's sake have graduation after the main body of students get away. Because it used to be a life and death matter. That parents didn't get tickets and one would come to the child's graduation and couldn't get in the auditorium, that was one of the worst situations you could run in to. Now, let's see, my freshman year, as I said I was majoring in Latin. Course my... WE: What...go ahead... MB: Go ahead and ask... WE: What were your impressions of Eastern when you got there? MB: Oh, heaven's I'd been here, as I said before. �WE: What...did anything really hit you? MB: Oh, I loved the dormitory. The girls had lots of fun and we had control of our own money and we met boys and.... WE: Which dorm did you live in? MB: I lived in Burnam. I first lived on the side that, back then there was nothing but a ravine and I seen the people out there cutting greens along the hill in the spring. There was nothing but a ravine. Now, of course, they went on with the first...the old stadium and then now other buildings. And then I moved and I was always..for 3 years of college...that was the first year....the third year I moved right there third floor of Burnam. the one that opens out onto the tar roof and the sunbathing gang. I have some pictures and so forth of that. Of course, we did all the tricks then. A girl...well, in fact the lights blinked at 10 minutes till 10...10 o'clock every light went off in the dormitory. And Ms. Marie Roberts was the dean of women, that was before Emmaline Case came along. And she was...I don't whether you've had anybody describe her...She was a little woman with a complete (?) and just, ooh, you were terrified. I was...just absolutely terrified of her. So was everyone else. And of course, they'd ban you from campus if you disobeyed the rules and they were very strict. You couldn't...you were supposed to quit studying at ten unless you could sneak out to the...They had night lights at the end of the hallway and study down on the steps at night. WE: By the night light? MB: The night light out there. They, of course, always had an office girl downstairs. You were buzzed in. I know the first time I ran afoul of Ms. Roberts, I had been down to Corbin. Came back on the trains. As I said we all traveled them home. My dad did not have a railroad pass, but every friend I knew had one of the railroad pass. Of course, I traveled the train to Corbin...no waiting on the bus. Nobody had a car, so we walked. I'd been down there for the weekend and the train was late getting back. Had an exam the next day and cafeteria closed, it was in the basement of Burnam Hall then. Closed. No food. I hadn't brought in food so I went down to the office girl and asked to check out. Of course, we had to check out even when the lights were on at night. I asked to check out to go to town to Joe's to get me something to eat. She said, oh I can't do that. I said well let me go ask Ms. Roberts if I can. Oh, she's taken a nap. She's not to be disturbed. Don't you dare go in there. I said well, check me out to the Baptist Church then. So I checked myself out to the Baptist Church and walked downtown and got something to eat at Joe's, came back and started to studying because I had exam. Well, about 10:30 that night the buzzer rang two buzzes for me. We had one and two code. So I go down there and I saw this group of gals down there. Of course, I was only a freshman and a lot of them were the upper classmen sitting down there. So I sat down there and there she came into the room and she said, "Young lady"...word had been whispered around that that night the Baptist Church had had a baptizing and had stayed. You see all the other churches had gotten out, but that particular group held on about an hour..hour and half than the Methodist, the Christian, and Presbyterians. And of course, everybody joined there came down. So some of 'em had not evidently gone to the Baptist Church because they had got in too early. And I had too, cause I just went down and came back. I was mad because they wouldn't let me ask her to �go, cause all I wanted was to run down and get something to eat. So she went around the room and why did you get home so early. She said oh, I fainted and my boyfriend had to bring me out and then he thought he ought to bring me home. There were stories I heard...of course, it came to me. I told her that I asked the office girl there to let me ask you to go to town to get something to eat because I needed food and had an exam the next day. She thanked me. Turned the whole room, I guess 20, 30 girls all in early. So she started me first. She said, "Ms.Culton,.." She said, "You may not go home for the next two weeks since you told the truth." I said, "Yes ma'am. I did." But you can't go home for the next two weeks. Your campused on weekends. The others they all got different sentences I'm sure. I called my dad. He says you're coming next weekend and you're coming the next weekend. He was angry over it. So I went home the next two weekends. I broke my campus but I sure should not have. WE: Did you get any repercussions from that? MB: No. No. Fortunately, I had an average, people could never accuse me of (?) because my dad believed in keeping up with grades you know. So I kept up my grades and made good grades. Now episodes along, of course, my major professor was Mable Pollock. Came into...who as I say I was in school with Bob Martin's mother had classes with. I was also in school with Douglas Kincaid who of course, is a famous man. And had classes with them all in Cammack Hall. And Mrs. Adams was really something as a professor. Of course, I don't know in your history whether you found anything about the Trojan women or ever heard of us. (Something is said...cannot understand. Something about a play.)..well, elected to put on. One thing, we were not deprived of cultural touches here at Eastern then because we had chapel three days a week and you had to go. They checked your little seat. In turn, when I got back to work I checked everybody else's little seat. You had to sit in your little seat. She decided to get the play "Trojan Women". Had all us gals out there put on our sheets and go on Roark. Of course, I managed to make the chorus. A real chorus wasn't in the characters, but we gave the Trojan Women and it was a great success. Of course, Ms. Bugg...Ms. Bugg was the one who gave the plays for the little kids in the school. WE: Were you in other plays other than that one? MB: Oh, some of them. I always think of Ms. Buchanan who died you know. Ms. Buc was one of my teachers, too. But I was....that was after I came back and was working. She came in...that's the year the put in the first skin test for tuberculosis and Eastern was a guinea pig and Dr. Farris had all of us over and gave us a skin test. Mine was...well it didn't do anything. Ms. Buchanan came in and she had great big red circle. She said, "Shakespeare on tuberculosis. TB or not TB. Out damned spot!" She was... WE: Did she have TB? MB: No...I don't guess so. She lived to be up to what? 90? WE: I think so! MB: Some people can, I mean. Then it was not too unusual to have TB. Then of course, I had �Mr. Keith who was an unusual professor to have had there. I had him. He was history, which I took a lot of history on that. And I got to grade everybody's notebooks. He elected me the honor of grading the notebooks. He always made you keep a notebook. You'd be surprised how many people, classmates of mine who would take the notes from another class and make it nice and thick, you know. A little history here and a little history there. But, of course, he had a most fantastic memory, I bet. He would pick a class of 60 students, lay his cards A to Z, lay 'em down. Just look at you once and then call every name perfectly. Just run down the roll from A to Z. But he was an Oxford scholar and brilliant in his field. And a unique teacher. I had several of those that had it. Speaking of people I went to school with, of course, as I say, Dr. Bob Martin who then went on...Of course, he later became president of Eastern. Then, also, I said Douglas Kincaid. Oh, a few years back I had this cousin of mine, I might add, I'm getting her involved, but I might add I had relatives in Madison County of course tracing on back to grand...great grandfather had property that was taken over by the Ordnance, the old brick home they have, my great grandfather Gilbert. Anyhow, I had a cousin, this is a few years back, come in and she said, "Well, I've been over to Central Bank and walked into the room they've got dedicated to Douglas Kincaid and whose picture did I see? Yours! the first thing I saw when I walked into the door!" I thought, well my gosh that's...sure enough as you go in....they have over there a room fixed up on Douglas Kincaid. And there is an organization they belong too and my face is right on there along with his face and some others. So she said, "There you are!' I should have my picture with millionaires. But... WE: Who were some other people you went to school with? MB: Oh, goodness, I'd have to name 'em. Well, people...I've known them...known everyone since 1929 practically. Retired 11 years, but Ken keeps abreast of some...you see, I have a son whose with the school still here. Oh my, I couldn't name 'em all. Thinking back on...well, my student teaching class had Mary Smith who died recently. Kate Burnam who retired. T.J. Black. You know T.J. Mildred Abrams. Elizabeth Collins, retired,, now living down on Lancaster Avenue. I had Janet Case, Ms. Case's daughter and I taught them Latin up on the top floor up there in the spring 1933. And that was one of my most embarrassing things that happened to me. Of course, you're always terrified....those days you student teach, although I'd known Wilma(?) Rush and she had known me since I was born because she was from western Kentucky and had known Dad who'd been a teacher, you know, before he became a lawyer down in Corbin. Anyway, I was trying to teach Latin, you can imagine, to a bunch of sophomores and English students. I was 19. And I saw this note going here and there, there, and sort of a smirk on everybody's face. I thought, of gosh, I hope she doesn't see that cause I don't know what to do. But she sort of looked at me. So I said, "Please bring me the note." And I took the note and I opened it and I would have given a millionaire dollars not to have opened it 'cause it said, "Ms. Culton needs another petticoat." The sun coming in the window...(laughter) As I say, I will not rattle skeletons. I graduated in '33 and my suite mate over there in Burnam Hall, her father owned the other hotel that was over at Berea at that time. They had Boone Tavern still, but there was another lovely hotel over there. Been torn down... WE: What was it called? MB: I was trying to remember what they called it. It had a name. And it's been so many years �since I went over there with Elizabeth...I'm not sure that I...but I think it was just the Berea Hotel. But it was down there on the main drag. She took us as her guests over there during commencement week. And we'd drive back and forth to the programs here and got to stay in a hotel which was a real treat. That was in '33. Then I went on to the University of Kentucky and did graduate work. And in June, 1934, I got a call that said come and work at Eastern. Actually I was looking for job, but then so was everyone else. So they started me in the registrar. As I say, I've been there a long time, so I have more stories about school, but that's enough. I began work when Mr. Max (?) was registrar at that time. And the person's place I took was Doralyn. Coates' wife. If you got married then, you had to get up and go. So she got married and I got her job. And I got $92 a month which was higher pay than some of them were down to $75. And there was a little bit of resentment. But we managed to patch over that, so I worked there for many years. WE: Where did you live when you came back to work here? MB: That's the funny part about me. They allowed me to live in that downstairs room in Burnam Hall. The president's secretary, Kathy Morgan, had one. In the suite across the hall was Ms. Maude Gibson and Eunice and Jamaine Wingo(?). Eunice was the assistant dean of women and Jamaine was fourth grade teacher. We were allowed...and I had a key to Burnam Hall to come and go as I pleased. See, if I had late day I come in and open the door myself, although the door was locked, didn't want the students to come down. I loved being down there because they all petted me. Ms. Gibson, of course, was up in years, retired. I took the room that Mrs. Coates, Doralyn Coates' mother had. I had her old sewing machine still in my room. They left it in there for years. I stayed there until....a number of years before I married. Lived there. And I have stayed in Burnam Hall, the only person in the building. Slept there because the teachers would be gone, but I was staff what they called us in those days, so I had to stay. So I started in the registrar's office. Liked that very much. Then during the war, came on the war years, I married in 1939, but by that time you didn't have to quit when you got married. So I stayed. During the war years, they moved down to the business office as assistant business agent. That time everything went through...all monies went through the business office. Everything bought, cafeteria, school supplies, salaries went through there. The farm went through there. I've typed many a page of cows. There are four and five names that are.....I don't guess they've got that on the computer now. But we'd have to type. Every time the board met you had to list your assets and that was the cows for some of our assets. And the first day I went to work down there, they told me to order a butter cutter and a sump pump and I didn't know whether they were pulling my leg or not. Now that's the truth. The first day I'm there...a butter cutter and a sump pump. And I thought now somebody's gagging me on this. But I found there is a butter cutter and a sump pump. And then all medicines for the school was...I hadn't told you about the school doctor and some of those things. Oh, let me digress and go back to the year I was a junior. I caught the measles for the fourth time, unfortunately. I caught measles. However, I was the only girl that caught measles and all the rest of the patients over there at the infirmary which was on the second floor of Sullivan Hall were male. I was in a different place. I lay up there in that bed all by myself with about 8 beds all the way around there with the measles. So it winter. It snowed and some on the ground. Of course my friends couldn't come to see me. Nobody but the school nurse and the doctor popped into see me. Laying here in isolation. Finally one night, I'd had it. I laid down on that bed and I wailed my arms and my feet and cried and cried. I wanted a �coca cola. Edna White, the school nurse, bless her heart got in her old runabout, went downtown, and came back with a bottle...where you had to get your cokes then downtown, because Dr. Farris, the school doctor, choked on a piece of meat and coke one time, and cokes were not sold on campus. You could buy orange and you could buy grape, you could buy anything else, but no cokes. Down town if you wanted that. Of course, downtown was certain hangouts we all went to there. I got service one time, but I had sneaked Priestly's book, "Good Companions" and I read it. I was in there with the measles all by myself. WE: How long were you in there? MB: I think it was about two weeks. WE: Boy, that was isolation wasn't it? MB: Yes, it was. I haven't forgotten it exactly. Anyway, I came back to war time, I was swapped to the business office and that was an experience in itself because Eastern had refugee doctor...woman doctor. It was the only position that we could find. Her English was fair. She was no down grade doctor. She was....actually, I think, her entirely family had been lost over in...but she was looking for a job and Eastern hired her. But she'd write in the spideriest handwriting all these drugs. I never knew whether I ordered the right thing or not. At that time, Ms. White, our regular nurse retired, so we had no nurse. And I know one day she came in...we had the WAAC and I ordered all supplies for doctors and there was some computer supplies she ordered. But the best one the time they brought....(END OF SIDE 1) (BEGIN SIDE 2) MB: That was the time during W.W.II when the (?) was set up, it was the sons of well to do people who had to go into the service, but did not have to go over the seas if they could keep 'em from it. I presume that some eventually made it, but they moved to the college campus to train 'em. And I went in one Monday morning and they had brought this shipment of people in over the weekend and the nurse met me. She said "We've got a problem that we're going to deal. We're going to have to send to our office medication that will kill lice." So they had to put them in quarantine while I ordered the medicine to delouse them. I don't care one of them was supposed to be Vera Maxwell who's a big dress designer. I don't know whether you've heard of her. In New York she was the finest there was in those days. Back like Channel and the rest of 'em. So her son was one of the ASP people. Now those records were kept over there. I kept them in a paste board box in a vault and had to rate 'em. Lot of them wrote back after the years later to get the credit on their stay. Of course, as I say, I worked on the business office. Then I worked in the dean's office. And eventually, full circle, came back you know to the registrar. In fact, Bob Martin wanted me to go on...I was assistant registrar...he wanted me to go on and he told me. I said, "Uh uh. I'm retiring. I've been around here too long." He said, "When you going? You're the only person been here longer than I have." I said, "I'm going end of June." He resigned three months later so he could say he'd been here longer than I had. But he hadn't because he was one year behind me in school. I graduated in '33 and he graduated in '34. Now, the thing about it, is laughing about skeletons, but now, of course, I couldn't dare do that. But through the years of maintaining friendship with a group of women. We called ourselves the �office of 8 and Mary Frances. Mary Frances Richards, recently deceased was the ninth member of our group. One of them controlled the president's office. I held the dean's office. Another one had the registrar's office. Another one the extension office. Another one the business office. One of 'em the alumni office. In other words, we eight, little old bitties in the office, ran the school in a sense because we knew everything that was happening and we maintained a friendship all those years. Now we had lunch every Wednesday for 30, 40 years. Now there's only 4 of us left. Helen Perry was one of them. Rachel Duncan was another one. Frankie Denniston, wife of a professor over in the industrial arts...the old industrial arts. And Ellen Wickersham was the other. Left is Louise Broaddus, Carrie Cox, myself, and Lois McArthur(?). Lois was in the president's office. She was there for, oh I started out under Donovan and he was something again. You were terrified of him. Everyone was. WE: Why was that? MB: He..it was his manner. He was very just, very nice. But he was a brusque speaker. As I say, well Mr. Ault was superintendent of buildings and grounds, used to be the two big brick buildings down there. They called 'em the cottages but they were in like rows of Sullivan Hall. They were not cottages, they were brick homes and the school doctor lived in one and the superintendent of buildings and ground in the other. Of course, we were small, but we had the grounds but we didn't have the buildings. He told me one time...he was succeeded by Mr. O'D who was put in, frankly, because he was a personal friend of Gov. Johnson. So they kicked Donovan over to the University of Kentucky, he became president there. And O'Donnell came in from the Richmond City Schools become president of Eastern. And I had Mr. Ault. He's dead now, I guess I can sum up. He said, "I'll tell you the difference between the two presidents. Donovan will call in the two people who were in dispute"...and don't think there haven't been fusses. Everybody and everything for many years. That's human nature. Said, "He'd call in the two parties that were feuding. He'd listen to this one. He'd listen to that one. He'd say You're right. You're wrong. They'd go and that's the end of it." Mr. O'D, bless his heart, would call 'em in. He'd listen to this one. He'd listen to this one. No, he'd call 'em in separate. Now that's just sounds right. That person'd go out and the other person would come in. And he'd say, well that just sounds right. And nothing was ever resolved because they still went on feuding. So that was the difference summed up of the two presidents with the interworking. Of course, Bob Martin...as I said, I knew him as a student. I admired him very much. He was a good student. A good person. Lot of people were afraid of him. I wasn't because I'd known him too long. And of course, J.C. Powell came along with him. And I was in the dean's office at the time. Dean used to call come here J.C., tell Aunt Martha what J.C. stands for. Cause he was a good friend of J.C.'s father who was over at Campbellsville College. Dean Moore was. And he knew...he teased him about what the J.C. stand...Of course, J.C. get sorta red around the ears then and he'd say, now that doesn't matter what J.C. stands for. WE: Tell me about the....let's go back just a little bit to the Depression. What were the Depression years like here at Eastern? MB: They which? WE: The Depression years. �MB: Oh, the Depression years. Well, let me think. You dated. Of course, a lot of 'em worked in school. We had the WPA, works project and all of that. We didn't have many clothes as they have nowadays. But everything...they still had dances. You had your meal ticket there. You bought your books and some of them probably had it pretty tough. As I say, I was privileged in that dad could afford to pay for me and did. I worked in the summer in the office, but he paid my school expenses. I remember one girl, you were talking about the Depression days, girl from Whitesburg, I won't call her name. Anyhow she...whenever she got ready to go to class she hiked her skirt up just a little to show that she had lace on her petticoat. Most of us didn't have lace on our petticoats, but she showed us she did, you know. WE: She was showing off. MB: But she did. And she would deliberately do it on there. We went to dances, as I said. WE: Very few people had cars? MB: Oh, nobody. We didn't have cars. You walked. Walked with your boyfriend and by the time I was a senior there weren't many...my boyfriend my senior year was a basketball player who finished at midterm. Went out to finish teaching school and of course, the first thing he did was buy a car. So I did get to ride around some in a car. We used to have Sunday dinner down there at Ms. Abrams which is the first house below the park on going down the left down...See the entrance to the campus was south second exit was Lancaster in those days and the big chain went up every night that the night watchman walked around. And run a chain across. I can remember once that this girlfriend of mine from Ashland's parents came all the way from Ashland and they had a car they parked there in that little..more money than some of us. Parked down there and we had to get permission to walk down to the car for her to talk to her parents behind the chain. There it's by Burrier Building now. Along in there. We used to have dinner. You went out to eat at certain boardinghouses and some of the boys who'd moved off campus and were living out in town. And one of the ones I ate dinner with when I was with this later became a regent at Eastern out there. I was the only one in the office that had a regent come in and smack her on the cheek everytime he came through campus. WE: Who was that? MB: Bob Hensley. Came from (?). Bob was my friend at that time. Of course, I'd met my husband who was a Centre College graduate or I couldn't handle the Burnam Hall after I'd been working a number of years. Cause we didn't have (?) So quite properly introduced in the middle of Burnam Hall. Which then, the girls, you see, there wasn't many places to go, so you went up after supper into the lobby of Burnam Hall. There was always, I don't know....every year there was one or two be convinced to get on the piano and play and entertain and the girls and boys could stay in there and talk. Course, you couldn't go out unless you checked out to the library and we went to the library and come back in. And of course, lights out at 10 o'clock. Of course everybody had a supply of candles and flashlight. That didn't...there was ways of getting in and out of even the dormitory. But generally speaking people stayed in the dorms. They took their...the school was small enough. I wondered what oral history constituted so I asked Glenn Carey and he said, "Shall I rattle the skeletons?" He said, "Oh no, no don't do that?" �WE: Glenn said that? MB: He knows I know too many skeletons! I said, "Well what should I..." Just talk about things. So I've been talking about things. I didn't know whether you had specific questions you wanted to ask or not. WE: Well, I've got some. How did the school change when W.W.II ended? MB: Well, one thing we had some men back on the campus. First time. And with the influx of men it changed. Of course, during the war, except for the WAC and ASP people, I don't know we got down around, I forgot just how many boys, but wasn't more than 35 or 40 boys on the whole campus in April. They came back like, of course, the saddest time to me was when I was catching them after the Vietnam War. See I was still working then at that time. That's a more recent history. After the W.W.II, I lost a number of friends. You don't forget them. See I was old enough to have friends...I had relatives that fortunately every one came back. I had my brother was in the Air Corp. Eight cousins in the Air Corp. Two cousins in the Navy. My uncle named Seth, one uncle in the Infantry, one uncle in the Coast Guard. The family, of course, my husband himself in service. So I was affected in every way. Some of the students I'd known at Eastern were killed. One of the....at that time I had a student worker in the office. Of course, I've had hundreds of student workers the past.., well since I worked at the school so long from '34 to '76. You figure it out. And her finance' was killed at Pearl Harbor in the first fire by the Japanese. And yet those of us who at that time can't quite accept Japanese....my husband was a s...he was trained to kill, but he just simply would not tolerate them in the state and of course, he had friends and like the people at Harrodsburg, they lost greatly. They lost sons and what not. WE: Do you remember what you were doing when you heard about Pearl Harbor? MB: Oh yes, indeed. WE: What were you doing that day? MB: I was sitting in my apartment down there on Oak Street reading the paper and had the radio on. It was hard to believe. Hard to believe. And Milton's...Louise's cousin Dawn was(? NONE OF THIS IS CLEAR) in the house, took out an apartment downstairs, but I called her through the back door and she said she's...now retired over in Lexington....she says she remembers my calling to her and telling her through the back of the house that they....Yes, I remember when because my aunt's cousin that was living with me now, Gerald Johnson became one of the great W.W.II aces. He rates up there in the tiptop. Gerald Lee. What's a three star general? He only liked one star being a full general the way he ended up the Air Corp. And still I don't know what said about Gerald, he was in Saudi Arabia as late as two years ago. Although he's no longer in the air corp he headed the air corp. He left. He was in school and living in an apartment...the boys were in the apartment below Milton and myself. And he went to Lexington, passed his physical, and was in the army. They just disappeared every place leaving their families. Of course some cam back and some never came back from that. Had one cousin shot down in the Pacific. Managed to get out after I don't know how many months in the bush, but he came out and made it back. He lived among one of them tribes and all. He could never tell me. He said �they gave him some sort of a potent drink, but he was like walking in a dream. They burned down the jungles over there so he was fortunate. He was...As I say, I've had relatives along and my son was born in 1945. So he came along with the babies from.... WE: The baby boom. MB: The baby boom is right. Glad to get back. Don't talk to me to about Anna Ford, Anniston, different places. I prefer not to refer to those. Those were the war years. I worked and wrote letters. I tell you that's when I went up...see I lived around the corner from Mary Frances Richards and I come around the corner and we'd do the alumni letters to the service men. They'd dictate and I'd take 'em down. I'd use my shorthand always kept it up. And we wrote to them all over the world. Now that's one thing I did. And talking about the odd things in school, Emma Case, great dean of women, she was a great Methodist and as you know, the Methodist had long had their yearly meeting at Eastern over there in the auditorium. She used to ask me, although I was a good Baptist, to come and take the bishop's dictation. So I have taken Bishop Darlington's dictation English for many years with this Baptist hand. All the different Methodists, the bishop's dictation left 'em out. The best one talking about complications in meetings was the one where the...American Kentucky Medical Society met over there. And I was in school at that time and Ms. Gill assigned to do the...take it down...dictation as part of grade a speech up at the auditorium. I don't know what I put. You would think...the terms, if you don't know medicine and you're green and you're standing there...sitting there trying to take it down. It was something else. And Dr. McCormick was head of the Kentucky Medical Society then. He was old and so they had a couch up there on the Brock Auditorium. See Brock Auditorium was dedicated the year I came to school here. That's when they had that mayor Surmack that was later killed, you know, when they fired on President Roosevelt. He was our speaker. He was a wonderful speaker. As I said, with chapel three times a week, you got exposed to some of the better speakers. Jesse Stuart was one. President Donovan fell in love, more or less, with him. He'd bring him down. He brought him along before he was fame....Brought him up and had him on a platform at Eastern to talk to us when he was out of O&U down there in (?). Came up here. And went to him and I said, "Ms. Adams" Madame Pollack as we called her, was acquainted everywhere. Of course, she edited Patterson...President Patterson's papers at the University of Kentucky. He left them to her. And she had..knew many people in her home in different fields. She selected good ones. Now that's one that President Martin and, call him by his name, President Martin still admires very much. Experiences on campus...let me go back to one that I may forget. Lucy O'Lerrick(?), retired professor of the University of Chicago now, but ole Lucy O'Lerrick was a campus leader in those days, very much the honor student. Anyhow, she and I were good friends. And the college doctor, Dr. Chuck Farris were going to be away from the campus so they asked two of us gals to go down there and live in the house for the week they were gone. We even invited Ms. Buchanan up for dinner...and tried to fry liver for her. But the first night we were there, Dr. Farris had sons and we were there and we went...they said you'll sleep and they showed us up in the room...we slept in the room where the children were. We hadn't anymore gotten in bed and turned the lights out and we heard something coming up the stairs just...just boing up the stairs. PSSS-- right under the bed I was sleeping in. It was the Farris's dog. They had forgotten...and it had been sleeping...it was supposed to be an outside....and the son whose bed I occupied had been sneaking the dog up the stairs after the lights went out so it could sleep under the bed. So we had the dog sleeping with us the entire �week we had the house for the Farrises. Oh me. WE: How did the keeping of records change over the years here at Eastern? MB: Oh my, goodness. First went there do you believe it or not we copied grades. And then right on that came the...I was the first typewriter and started typing on 'em. So we typed 'em. But in order to get a transcript you had to type. There was no way of reproducing a copy. You had to type off the records back then and type it all and write 'em down. And drew line beneath it with a pen and marked the end of it so additional work could be put on there and then you initialed it where it stopped off. You had one semester, two semesters to four years. You always had the line underneath signified the end of the transcription. Then they came along and I got me...I don't know what you call it...like a washing machine. You add fluid you put in there and you ran 'em through there and hung 'em to dry. So that's the next step. WE: And that made copies? MB: That made copies. That made copies. If you wanted three copies you ran it through the drum. You had to put your record...check your record out and run it through the drum on there. Now of course, a computer which I begged for and enjoyed thoroughly. That's only one I enjoyed even though it did make mistakes because it's just as good as the person that puts it in it. And I did that...cause I know that...put records on there. But we did go into typing the record. And then of course, when the...the next step was the computer which you had your little strips that were peeled off and printed on the strips. You peeled those off. That was loads of fun as to get into the techniques of work! Loads of fun! Three Linda Louise Lyons and try to see which Linda Louise got which transcript which little slip and sometimes a number slipped in data processing. So you've had to plan both. But I always said I'd quit when they got second Margie...we got the second...no it was Margaret Wojochasky...Names, now that's something that's strange. I mean thousands, and thousands, and thousands of names. Gladly I won't recall them now. But we have actually had two Margaret Wojochasky's and spell that...I doubt it! Because it is an odd spelling. It doesn't say Wojochasky. It's just like the year they say found out what that bush was in front of Burnam Hall...I mean Ad Building. Yawnings(?) Do you know where to find that in the dictionary. WE: Starts with an "e". MB: Starts with an "eu" and you can look all day to find euamas and it takes that long to find it. It's in the "eu"'s. Oh, man. No the keeping of records, of course, we were entrusted...it's a gift trust in them. Because you have your vault and records and very, very old records. They have even the books that were kept in 1906 and early ones are over there. Charlie Hay wanted to take some to the Archives. I don't know how many he's moved out into the Archives. But, in our possession even the old school seal....see you had to seal every transcript that the print with the seal that was make it legal. Wouldn't be legal...be unofficial. And I had that old...I don't know whether they charged more than a dollar. It was a dollar when I came and it was a dollar when I left. They never did change the price. WE: How much is a transcript now, Jane? �Jane: I'm not sure. MB: I really don't know, but it was a dollar when I came in 1929 and it was a dollar when I left in '76. WE: A dollar in 1929 was quite a bit of money. MB: Absolutely. You had to want that transcript badly. WE: To pay a dollar! MB: We had been, really, when a placement bureau called the Extension Department. I served in there too, because when one of the gals took a vacation, you slid in...everybody took a turn doing their work. Because, as I say, there was so many of us around, and that was it. We handled the office. We had the boss and the boss had to teach some in those days too. You see there wasn't full bosses, they were expected to teach some. On that. Of course, we've had, as I say, we had the upstairs, there was a vault over...whether you know or not...in Roark there's a vault in Roark. WE: No, I didn't know that. MB: Second one is the upstairs. First one I used the upstairs in Brock in the Ad Building. And then the basement one...we put the big one down there, it was larger than the one upstairs. But if you could keep some of the records up there and why you can....I can still go back and work the combination cause I usually had to help, the girls wouldn't go inside and let 'em shut 'em up in there when a man was working on the lock on the vault. So I had to go in there and do it. But I wasn't afraid to work to the lock. Sort of fell into place and I guess I could still go back and do it. I don't doubt it with these fingers, but here's to the memorance of that last fall. I remember the morning I got up here..in the 70's...got up here at school and over the weekend the radiator in the Registrar's office had burst. I walked in the office...I happened to have boots on with the snow...there was water over my boots standing there and of course they'd had pressure had gotten into the vault. That was when...before J.C. became president. Anyway, J.C. and I let out a scream. They said they heard it at the top of building when I saw I was just wading in. You could imagine. There was all of our electric typewriters, because the first typewriters at Eastern were manual. These were electric. There I was...we trying....everybody was trying to get the water out and J.C. standing there sweeping water out of the vault with the rest of us....It was getting about that high. No great damage to it, though. The records were on a shelf up that high and then we raised on blocks after that. I wasn't have them...so we raised 'em up. Because of the water damage. WE: And water even got in the vault? MB: Oh, yes. I don't know how it come in there. It's supposed to be fireproof, but I don't believe in fireproof because one of the schools down there in West Virginia had to have a fireproof vault. And it was fireproof, the Ad Building burned and their records burned inside those files. They just charred. The heat was so great.... �WE: That's hot! MB: It was fireproof all right, but it charred the records. Far as I know, we never lost but one record that I know we carried the name of one person's record we never could locate. We constructed it because in the center down there in the basement where they have old offices and things now was the storage space then. That's the janitor's hangout. Where Oscar and the janitors played cards. I don't know whether anybody ever told you about the noon cards that you could hear 'em yelling on that they played cards down there. And, I'm getting off...well, anyway, down there was where we would go in and do the records, the reproduction. We put the machine down there. Of course, then they were open offices. The room were the registrar's office was downstairs was the extension office for many years with a classroom back there where Pat Ridgely has... WE: Ridgely has his office. I didn't know there was ever a classroom back there. MB: Oh, yes and also a classroom where part of the registrar's office was. I had...I substituted for Edith Ford...in the offices they used to call down and teach us...there weren't but two, three...four people in the Commerce Department. Dr. Moore, Lester Richards, Edith Ford and a Gilbert Connors and one of those guys was...somebody from the offices had to go down and teach typing or shorthand. That was all...I even substituted for Latin out of the office. Call you in to go over and teach the Latin class, as I said. But there were classes down there and typing was down where the registrar office is now because I had a class down there. And that Dr. Scott over to the Lexington was the one that the students had. I've known 'em, as I say....Talking about...going back to on campus one incident I remember well was a Sunday afternoon, the girls had...you were allowed dates, you know on a Sunday afternoon. And unfortunately, Madison County has always had a lot of skunks. I don't know whether you know it or not, they were real popular and there was one out there in front of the hall and here were the boys over here......(END OF SIDE 2) (BEGIN SIDE 3) WE: You were telling the story about the skunk. MB: Well, all right. It was parading back and forth there and I said, "Girls, go in Burnam Hall." The boys were on the other side. They couldn't come in to check the girls out. So finally, Hershel McKinley...I don't know whether you ever heard of him. He was a well known student at the time he was in school. Hershel took it on himself to tackle the skunk. He didn't have a date that afternoon, but everybody else did! Then one time.... WE: Did he get sprayed by the skunk? MB: Oh my, well the worst one we used to have to sit out there in class in all this. I sat next to Frank Congleton who graduated...You know Frank Congleton? WE: No. �MB: Prominent farmer here in town. WE: Yeah, I've heard of him, but I don't know him personally. MB: Well, Frank (?)...he came in one morning and he had run into a skunk and nobody in that history class up to 25 could stand it. And I was next to him. Mr. Keith made him go over and drop his jacket down on the ground from the second floor of the Ad Building. Down and around where we could have class. He had run in...smell to high heavens. Oh, there's been other people I've known through the years. Mrs. Barnhill was an unusual one. I don't know whether you've ever heard of her. English department. She'd been a lawyer and then a professor at Union College. She was excellent at English and American literature was what she taught. But she would get on something...she could tell a story...talk about some of 'em could tell a story...her two nieces came here. One of them married the...Doret Fixx who lived at the President Donovan's home. He was an artist...he was an artist. And he works...they have a branch out there. That was her niece and so on. I worked with her niece. She came into the office and worked all summer in the office with me. Ask me some more. That's one reason I didn't want to go home because I thought maybe being up here would jog some memories. You get 74, you're liable to need a lot of jogging! WE: What was the difference between the way Mrs. Case and Mrs. Roberts handled students? MB: Oh, my. All the difference in the world. Ms. Roberts...Ms. Roberts she was completely ugly. Old...frankly, she was old, terribly old she seemed to me at 15 and 16. She absolutely set the rules. They were expected to be obeyed. And she would...she had her own pattern and she wanted to take tea or afternoon nap and she was not to be bothered. It would take something earth....earthquake to even to get her change a bit. She had no sympathy for girls. Although she was rather nice to me one day, she was forgiven...She liked students who made good grades now. Be perfectly frank, I didn't make good grades. Not bragging or anything but a bit. And she noticed that. Emmalie Case was mother with two daughters and they turned out to be fine young women, but they were on the wild side as you called it in those days. She was quite sympathetic and a good friend of mine and still is. She's still alive, of course. WE: I interviewed her last week. MB: Not able to see. WE: She's still in fairly good health. I saw her a year ago. I don't know how she is now. MB: She's that way. Oh, I visited with her. She had...she used to have us down to...she lived in Walnut Court out to dinner. In those days, you invited friends to dinner a little bit more. She had Lois and myself several times in her home. She had a good maid serve dinner. I said that's one thing I ran into Richmond that I've never been used to. In Corbin, it's maids...that wasn't what maid service was. They...when I lived at the dormitory, of course, working, well I had...there was a maid, you could say, that cleaned the room. We paid her to do it. And she happened to be the wife of...Maddie Jett...the wife of Bill Jett who was the dean of janitors, I guess, at Eastern. Cause he trained Oscar White and Oscar White is now considered the old man �on...they passed down that...you were owned...you didn't hire them...they came to you. So Maddie came to room for years and years and kept it for me when I lived in the dorm. Course, as I said, I lived there and could come and go as I please now. Restrictions were not on me. Ms. Case was a very, very pleasant woman. Pleasing. She wanted to be popular. She was popular. And such a change from the former regimen that she was adored. And, as I say, she's still with Frank. Now who else would like to know? WE: Well, let's see if I can think of somebody else. You mentioned...well some of the different administrators you worked for. Tell us about those. MB: Well, of course there was Mr. Mallox. And then I worked for Mr. Jim Brock. Who, as I said, when he left they didn't know where the pipelines for Eastern...they've dug 'em up ever since. Cause he knew where every pipeline was leading and he was a very...he was the one in the Business Office and I worked in there and I got the first Helen (?) posting machine and that was something! Can you imagine being able to put your accounts in the posting machine and bang, bang, bang, and it came up and you knew. And the state had gotten posting machines and down they come and I knew how much Eastern had in all the given accounts. You did it once a month and if you didn't agree with Frankfort, then you could go over there and go over the accounts and find it. I put this purchase credited to the cafeteria should in turn be credited to something else. But he was very, very smart. And that's one of main...and let's see...Dean Moore. It's hard I talk so much anyway...He was years ahead of his time. He was the country boy smart and don't think he wasn't smart. He always played along, laughing and I know one time when J.C. was still Bob Martin's handyman before he became president and J.C. and Dr. Moore decided they wanted to check the top of Combs Building. The new Combs Building. Come on Aunt Martha get your...get that thing there....that book. We're going over to Combs. They there were, he was tall and skinny, long legs. J.C. tall and skinny. me short and fat. I couldn't keep within 10 feet of 'em. I said, You boys go on. I'll get there eventually. I did eventually. But they long gone...cause they moved so fast. No I had the honor, the year that they decided to gut the Ad Building to move Dr. Moore over to Case Hall. Five truck loads went to the city dump of papers. Seven loads went over there and I have enough bookcases, he loved books. I had enough bookcases to build partition between...John Rowlett was down there. He was working on an extension and John Rowlett was down in one corner of the dean's office and the other was the extension office and all the different things, leaving there. President's office went over to Student Building that was the only one that got there. And Helen Perry and David (Damon?) Van Lehman (?) of Student Affairs group went over to the basement of Sullivan Hall. We were down in the basement of Case Hall and Dr. Moore drew the office...the office in seven sections and that was the truth. He was an old softy and (says something while laughing)...the concessions fitted him perfect. But I used to say he had three categories: rush, rush, rush; rush, rush; and rush. I always did the rush, rush, rush. I tried to get the rush, rush and occasionally...When he got fourteen chair bottoms filled with papers, because he favorite filing place was a chair bottom and he was filling them. Now over there at the...course, we got to select the office furniture for the thing...building when they moved back in from Case Hall back after they renovated the Ad building. I got to select the furniture. Well, they brought me this Chicago designer brought me the thing in said this will be this. And I said My gosh, I won't move back into that. I said...if you'll forgive me...I said, "It looks like what I always heard the waiting room to a whorehouse looks like." Orange, and purple, and green. I said, "No way for �the dean's office." I guess John Rowlett has right now. I picked the jewel colors. I said pick jewel colors. You can learn to live with them. The deep reds and the greens. Well, we got the wall painted pink which is nice and I ordered the pink typewriter. Now I got the pink typewriter I supposed they would give me first service on the typewriter. And Frankfort got the bill on my pink typewriter. Down from Frankfort they flew, you can't....you're not allowed a pink typewriter. So they...come over there in Lexington came over and took my pink typewriter except they just took the top part you know...just the pink part. And they forgot and left me pink screws inside. And I could still look at those. But I went back to basic green. Institutional green as they painted most of the building, but we did have that paper, I presume is still on there. That they put on with an iron. Just a regular electric iron with steam and you iron that paper that's on there. Course, Dr. Alec(?) was my boss too. (?????) Well, I guess when I left he was.... WE: Who was that? MB: Dr. Alec (?). I had him as a boss too. He used to come down to the office a few years there. And you know he was always with a pipe. I call up, "You left two of your pipes down here." He always left his pipes around on my desk when he come down to visit. I enjoyed knowing the different administrators the school has had. More rarefied, I absolutely....as I said I knew the men...the top men at Eastern, didn't know a wife in the bunch because I was here all day, went home at dinner. I'd meet them at parties and I'd think that one goes with that one, but I did know all the men. Had dealings with them. I was the one that helped set up the police under Powell. Did the curriculum work. The first curriculum...one of the first meetings on that. When it was initiated that was fascinating because I got to talk to every policeman from Madison to Paducah. They all came to Eastern with their credits and that was my job to set that up. They were (?) and Kenlake and different places. Now, course it's phased out now. Phased down. But at the time it came in there really a need in the state and the finance properly and of course, there were police all over the state were foolish that didn't take advantage of the pay. Now, of course, some of the graduates are notorious. But...I knew them too. I knew Thornton and Cannon from over there in Lexington. Met them in all and matter of credentials. See, one of the Louisville detectives...police detectives was killed back a few years back. They were one... WE: You knew Mr. Thornton? MB: Oh, I fixed the records for those. Mayor and all of 'em. Newland was the first one. The first police record I made was Newland. Of course, there was Bob Posey and John Rowlett and myself and Leonard Tare, he was there then. Let's see who else. A couple of more were in the group that set up the whole...and worked out the records. And of course, they had been going to these odd schools here at the high school, this school, and the other school. And nothing in the way of a degree for police. Very few of them had degrees at that time. And when the money came in it really did upgrade everything. The only trouble I had was in firearms with the little one hour course in the curriculum that they had to have. One hour firearms. Well, invariably they'd say I've got a sharpshooter medal from the service. I've had this award for this and I've this and I shoot at that and all that, can I get out of that. Give me credit for that. Uhhuh. They explained it to me and said it wasn't the fact that you could shoot, it was the psychology behind the shooting. And so the one hour course was...that was my...always counted on any man �coming in with his little suitcase, he would want that one hour course. Not a one ever got it because it was without taking it...it was one course, you'd think would be the least used, but they did insist on..that they could take it in on campus at least once. WE: Well, we don't want to wear you out. MB: Huh? WE: We don't want to wear you out. MB: Oh, I'm fine...I've got to get home and finish my book. WE: You're reading a Margaret Truman book, you say? MB: Oh, yes. Working the CIA. That's one thing I retired to do was to read. I read. I've always read all my life. Even when I was little I remember mother...we always got a book at Christmas. And dad got All Quiet on the Western Front one year and I read it before he did. I put my cover from my Under Country Skies, a sweet little girl's book and read All Quiet on the Western Front before he got to read it. But I read. I keep a list...in fact, I'm an old diary keeper. Believe it or not. WE: You keep a list of all the books you've read? MB: Yes, I've got a list of 'em. You want the list? Cut me off and I'll give you some good ones to read. At the book fest Tuesday...when it's Tuesday over there, why they have that....Denise Gardenia, I think her name was something like that's pronounced, her book Storming Heaven is really beautiful. And one I've read also..at least it was different was Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistlestop Cafe. It really is unique. It's one of the new ones...of course, I've read.... WE: Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistlestop Cafe. MB: at the Whistlestop Cafe. It's good. It's a little different. I read the best seller Kaleidoscope, you know John Jakes book, Whatnot. The one I finished is one that's on the best seller list now just last week on that...let's see what was the name of it....I read so many I'm having to think. WE: They're having a book fair in Frankfort this Saturday. Are you going to that? MB: Yes, I know. No, I'll let Ken go. He knows the state librarian on schools over at the university. WE: There's going to be a lot people there. I hear Rosalyn Carter is going to be there, too. MB: Oh, well, she's written some too. WE: Let's see several other famous people, big name authors. Well, thank you for talking to us. �I appreciate it. MB: Well, I didn't know to..... WE: We may get you back again sometime. END OF TAPE � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. 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Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1988 OH 001 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 11/17/1987 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Martha Barksdale EKU Marie Roberts Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Bert Thomas Combs, born in 1911 in Clay County, served as governor of Kentucky from 1959 to 1963 and on the United States Sixth Judicial Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati, Ohio, from 1967 to 1970. There are interviews with Combs, his relatives, and his political associates, including Barry Bingham, Sr., Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., Wilson W. Wyatt, Sr., John Y. Brown, Sr., Wendell P. Butler, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, and Lawrence W. Wetherby. They discuss Combs's childhood in Prestonsburg, his career through 1970, factionalism in the Democratic party, political campaigning in Kentucky, Combs's programs for education and transportation, the sales tax, veterans' bonuses, tourism and state parks, the merit system, civil rights, conservation, and revision of the state constitution. Title A name given to the resource Bert T. Combs Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Robinson, George W. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Francis, J. David Location The location of the interview. 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Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1979 OH 234 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 6/1/1979 Description An account of the resource Circuit Judge Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with J. David Francis Bert T. Combs Democratic Party Gubernatorial Campaign-1955 Politics Robert R. Martin Wilson Wyatt Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Bert Thomas Combs, born in 1911 in Clay County, served as governor of Kentucky from 1959 to 1963 and on the United States Sixth Judicial Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati, Ohio, from 1967 to 1970. There are interviews with Combs, his relatives, and his political associates, including Barry Bingham, Sr., Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., Wilson W. Wyatt, Sr., John Y. Brown, Sr., Wendell P. Butler, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, and Lawrence W. Wetherby. They discuss Combs's childhood in Prestonsburg, his career through 1970, factionalism in the Democratic party, political campaigning in Kentucky, Combs's programs for education and transportation, the sales tax, veterans' bonuses, tourism and state parks, the merit system, civil rights, conservation, and revision of the state constitution. Title A name given to the resource Bert T. Combs Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Robinson, George W. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Carroll, Thomas Location The location of the interview. Louisville, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 1:19:58 Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. none XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1979oh242-carroll.xml Indexer Crystal Allen-Daniels OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1979oh242-carroll.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1979 OH 242 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 6/7/1979 Description An account of the resource The treasurer of the Kentucky Democratic Campaign Committee talks about getting to know Bert T. Combs. He talks about the 1959 campaign and the politicians he was working for at the time. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Thomas Carroll A.B. Chandler Bert T. Combs Democratic Party Dick Moloney Earle Clements Gubernatorial Campaign-1955 Political Polls Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Bert Thomas Combs, born in 1911 in Clay County, served as governor of Kentucky from 1959 to 1963 and on the United States Sixth Judicial Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati, Ohio, from 1967 to 1970. There are interviews with Combs, his relatives, and his political associates, including Barry Bingham, Sr., Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., Wilson W. Wyatt, Sr., John Y. Brown, Sr., Wendell P. Butler, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, and Lawrence W. Wetherby. They discuss Combs's childhood in Prestonsburg, his career through 1970, factionalism in the Democratic party, political campaigning in Kentucky, Combs's programs for education and transportation, the sales tax, veterans' bonuses, tourism and state parks, the merit system, civil rights, conservation, and revision of the state constitution. Title A name given to the resource Bert T. Combs Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Davis, Harry Location The location of the interview. Frankfort, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 1:09:58 Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. none XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1979oh125-davis.xml Indexer Crystal Allen-Daniels OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1979oh125-davis.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1979 OH 125 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2/22/1979 Description An account of the resource Politician Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Harry Davis A.B. Chandler Bert T. Combs Democratic Party factionalism Gubernatorial Campaign-1955 Gubernatorial Campaign-1959 Gubernatorial Campaign-1979 Lawrence Wetherby Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. and Barry Peel Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Martin, Robert R. Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview no Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. yes, this tape not to be released to anyone before January 1, 1987. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1976 OH 002 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 12/13/1976 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Robert R. Martin EKU Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Peel, Barry Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Martin, Robert R. Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview no Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. yes, this tape not to be released to anyone before January 1, 1987. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1976 OH 003 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 12/13/1976 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Robert R. Martin EKU Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. and Barry Peel Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Martin, Robert R. Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview no Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. yes, this tape not to be released to anyone before January 1, 1987. XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1976oh004-martin.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1976oh004-martin.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1976 OH 004 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 12/13/1976 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Robert R. Martin EKU Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Peel, Barry Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Martin, Robert R. Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. yes, not to be released to anyone before January 1, 1987 Indexer Aaron Moore XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1976oh005-martin.xml OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1976oh005-martin.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1976 OH 005 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 12/13/1976 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Robert R. Martin EKU Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Peel, Barry Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Martin, Robert R. Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview no Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. yes, this tape not to be released to anyone before January 1, 1987. Indexer Aaron Moore XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1976oh006-martin.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1976 OH 006 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 12/13/1976 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Robert R. Martin EKU Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Matthews, Robert Location The location of the interview. Shelbyville, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 1-6 Early Acquantance with Martin. A. Martin was superintendent of Public Instruction and Mattews was in the Attorney General's office. 6-14 Relations with the Chandler administration 14-21 Factional Democratic Party Politics 22-34 Martin's influence in Democratic Party politics 34-51 The Combs Gubernatorial Primary, 1959 51-65 Martin as Finance Commissioner 65-77 Martin's strong leadership at Eastern 77-92 Martin's desire to go to Eastern as president 92-106 Martin's support of Matthews for political office 106-127 The relationship of politics and education in Kentucky. The role of the council on Public Higher Education 127-144 Doran and martin compared are political-educational leaders 144-163 Matthews' impression of Martin's years at EKU Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1976oh007-matthews.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1976oh007-matthews.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1976 OH 007 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 11/30/1976 Description An account of the resource Robert Matthews is a native Kentuckian born in 1923. He served as Assistant Attorney General of Kentucky from 1955-60 and as executive secretary to the Governor of Kentucky. From 1960-63 Mr. Matthews served as Commissioner of Finance and from 1963-67 he served as Attorney General of Kentucky. In 1967 he returned to his private lat practice. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Robert Matthews Bert T. Combs Council on Public Higher Education Democratic Party EKU Gubernatorial Campaign-1955 Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Peel, Barry Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Chandler, A.B. Location The location of the interview. Versailles, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-4 Introduction 11-27 First recollections of Martin 27-45 Martin's political association with anti-chandler faction; Martin's opinion of 1956 budget submitted to General Assembly 45-64 Chandler's working relationship with Martin 64-102 Funding of Minimum Foundation program; Governor's responsibility of drawing up the budget; relations with the General Assembly 103-130 Chandler's opposition to federal funding of education; disadvantages incurred by Kentucky because of federal taxing and spending policies 131-199 Integration of Kentucky schools following Brown decision of 1954; problems faced by Chandler in integrating schools; Chandler's decision to allow Jackie Robinson to play professional baseball 199-248 Chandler's opinion of opposition to Martin's chairmanship of Combs' campaign in 1959; Chandler's recollection of 1959 campaign 248-330 Martin's "politicization" of many educators in Kentucky; Chandler's opinion of martin's administration in Frankfort and then at Eastern; recollections of student protests of early 70's; Chandler's contribution to higher education in Kentucky 330-360 Chandler's lack of regard for Martin's political abilities; Political strength of Clements 359-379 Reasons behind Martin's effectiveness as President of Eastern 380-492 Clements responsible more than anyone for monies received by Eastern; Chandler's relationship with Clements; Combs, Clements and the truck deal; Martin's discipline and strong management of Eastern 492-556 excessive competition between regional institutions and UK 556-658 Comparison of Martin with other Kentucky college and university presidents; Martin's greatest mistake was his political involvements; contributions of Chandler to Kentucky 658-678 Chandler's personal relationship with Martin Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1976oh008-chandler.xml OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1976oh008-chandler.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1976 OH 008 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 11/29/1976 Description An account of the resource Albert Chandler is a native Kentuckian born in 1898. He received his A.B. at Transylvania and his L.L.B. at the University of Kentucky. Mr. Chandler served as a Kentucky state senator in 1930 and as Lt. Governor from 1931-35. He served as Governor of Kentucky from 1935-39 and 1955-59. Mr. Chandler served as U.S. senator from 1939-45 and Commissioner of baseball from 1945-51. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with A.B. Chandler Earle Clements education EKU integration Jackie Robinson Minimum Foundation Program Robert R. Martin state budget student protests University of Kentucky Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Hartford, Ellis Location The location of the interview. Lexington, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 2:40:30 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 1-11 First acquaintance with Martin after World War II 11-34 Hartford's opinion of Martin as educator and politician a. Martin's role in the Combs campaign 34-40 The useful position of Martin in politics 40-53 Martin's influence in bonding procedures 53-61 Martin's desire to go to Eastern as president 61-85 The relation between politics and education in Kentucky 85-114 Doran as a political-educational figure 114-138 Other educators' reaction to Martin going into politics 138-190 Opinion of Martin as State superintendent of Public Instruction 190-235 The struggle for the minimum foundation program 235-342 Description of the battle to improve Kentucky's relative position in education in the nation 342-370 Martin's role in public school integration in the late fifties 370-418 Martin's philosophy of education 418-465 Martin's interest in technical and vocational programs 465-522 Hartford's reaction to Martin's appointment as president of Eastern, the practices for appointment of other university presidents 522-674 Hartford's relations with Martin while he was secretary of the Council on Public Higher education 674-815 Competition between the state universities and the University of Kentucky 815-917 Political influence in education in Kentucky 1-105 Martin's reaction to the development of the University of Kentucky community college system 105-118 The relation between the community colleges and EKU 118-202 Explanation of movement to create autonomy within the community college system, explanation of the creation of several of the colleges 202-376 Relations with educational leaders: Dickey, Oswald, Thompson, Doran, Wendell Butler, and Otis Singletary 376-540 Relationship with Kentucky's governors: Combs, Breathitt, Nunn, Ford, and Carroll 540-588 description of Martin's personality 588-660 Martin's success in handling finances 660-690 Martin's relationship with KEA 690-764 Martin's sense of humor a. recounts a luncheon in which Ed Prichard and Martin joked with each other 764-922 Martin's interest in history, construction of the one room school house on campus Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1976oh009-hartford.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1976oh009-hartford.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1976 OH 009 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 12/14/1976 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Ellis Hartford Community College System education EKU Granny Richardson integration Minimum Foundation Program one room schoolhouse Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Combs, Bert T. Location The location of the interview. Louisville, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) :59:07 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview no Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1976oh010-combs.xml OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1976oh010-combs.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1976 OH 010 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 12/17/1976 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Bert T. Combs A.B. Chandler coal mining Earle Clements Harry Waterfield Louisville Courier-Journal Lyndon B. Johnson Minimum Foundation Program Robert R. Martin state government taxes Wendell Butler Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Peel, Barry Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Dodson, Marvin Van Hoose, Richard Location The location of the interview. Louisville, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 1-4 Introduction 10-14 First recollections of Martin 14-24 Relationship with Martin during Martin's term as Superintendent of Public Instruction 24-31 Martin's expertise in school finance 31-44 Martin's role in the development and implementation of the Minimum Foundation program 44-57 Martin's advocacy for federal aid to education 57-71 Martin's relationship with Carl Perkins; success in obtaining federal funds for Eastern 71-94 Martin's involvement in politics while superintendent; qualifications for the office 94-114 relationship with Chandler 114-141 Martin's effectiveness in aiding Kentucky Education Association (KEA); relationship with KEA 142-169 Assessment of Martin as superintendent of Public Instruction; Martin's expertise in school finance Van Hoose 169-175 First recollections of Martin 176-184 assessment of Martin as Superintendent; reaction of superintendents in general to Martin's term as Superintendent 184-241 Martin's response to Brown decision; attitude toward desegration; Martin's policy of allowing local boards a large degree of autonomy in resolving problems connected with desegregation 241-263 Martin's advocac y for federal funding; Martin's unsuccessful attempt while superintendent to finance school construction through the use of state bonds 263-275 Martin's relationship with Jefferson County 276-285 Martin's role in developing educational television in Kentucky 285-293 Martin's relationship with Jefferson County 294-322 Relationsihip with Martin in drafting and implementing foundation program; disagreement with Martin over failure to include research funds in Minimum Foundation program 322-362 Relationship between poitics and education; extent that politics intruded in Department's decisions; Martin's proposal to make supertintendent an appointive office Dodson 363-390 Martin's attempts to reverse flight of teachers from Kentucky; attempts to upgrade teachers' salaries; Martin's philosophy of education; effectiveness as an administrator Van Hoose 402-429 Martin's philosophy of education; effectiveness as an administrator; Martin's response to Sputnik; his defense support of American education system; call for increased financial support Dodson 451-461 Martin's defense of educational system in response to light of criticism generated by Sputnik Van Hoose 461-471 Martin's call for increased financial support of Minimum Foundation Program 471-519 Martin's effectiveness as administrator at Eastern; temendous development of physical plant Dodson 519-537 Need for Council on Public Higher Education to coordinate system of public higher education in Kentucky Van Hoose 610-613 Martin's ambitions; qualifications for Governor Dodson 613-628 Anecdote concerning Martin and Clements; summary, attributes of Martin's character Van Hoose 653-697 Summary, Martin's historical place in Kentucky education and politics Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1976oh011-dodson.xml OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1976oh011-dodson.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1976 OH 011 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 12/17/1976 Description An account of the resource Richard Van Hoose is a native Kentucky born in 1910. He received his A.B. from Georgetown and his M.A. from the University of Kentucky in education. From 1933-34. Mr Van Hoose worked in Franklin County and Frankfort as a teacher and principal. He then held the position of Superintendent of Anchorage schools from 1943-46; principal and recreation director in Jefferson County from 1946-48; director of Instruction from 1948-50 and superintendent of Jefferson County schools throughout the 1950's and 1960's. Mr. Marvin Dodson is a native Kentuckian. He received his a.B. and M.A. from Western Kentucky University. He served as a teacher, principal, and superintendent at Hart County schools. He also served as superintendent at Horse cave. Mr. Dodson later worked as director of Pupil Transportation, director of Public Relations in the department of Education, and as Executive Secretary of the Kentucky Educational Association. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Richard Van Hoose & Marvin Dodson education EKU Kentucky Education Association (KEA) Minimum Foundation Program Robert R. Martin student protests Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Peel, Barry Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Gilbert, Ted Location The location of the interview. Lexington, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 1-4 Introduction 7-26 First recollections of Martin; Martin's personality 026-45 Gilbert's initial association with Martin at the Department of Education 45-57 Martin's candidacy and election as Superintendent of public instruction 57-98 Martin's involvement in politics; relationship between education and politics; Martin's political ambitions 98-133 The Minimum Foundation Program; Martin's role in the development and implementation of the Foundation program 133-152 Political relationship between Martin and Chandler 152-184 Martin's administration of the Department of Education 184-204 Gilbert's relationship with Martin during Martin's years at Eastern 204-243 Gilbert's impressions of the Council on Public Higher Education and the need for more planning in Kentucky higher education Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh001-gilbert.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh001-gilbert.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 001 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1/4/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Ted Gilbert is a native Kentuckian born in 1917. He received his a.B. and M.A. at EKU. He first worked as a teacher in Breathitt County from 1939-49 and then returned to London, Kentucky where he served as superintendent from 1949-50. He moved to Maysville in 1950 and worked as superintendent for six years. Throughout the 1950's and 1960's he served in the Bureau of Administration and Finance, Department of Education, and Assistant Superintendent of Public Instruction. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Ted Gilbert education Minimum Foundation Program Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Dickey, Frank Location The location of the interview. Washington, D.C. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) :56:31 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 1-13 First meeting with Bob Martin while Dickey was Dean of Education at University of Kentucky 13-33 Contacts in the early fifties, certification of teachers, while Martin was part of State Department of Education, Minimum Foundation Program preparation 33-53 Relationship between Martin, state superintendent of Public Instruction, and Dickey, President of the University of Kentucky 53-68 Martin's role in developing the minimum foundation program. Martin's knowledge of school finance 68-85 Martin's conflicts with Governor Chandler while Martin was state superintendent 85-106 The political nature of the office of Superintendent of Public Instruction a. Dickey's opinion about the office 106-127 Dickey's reaction to Martin acting as Combs campaign manager in 1959 127-146 educators' reaction to Martin's appointment as President of Eastern Kentucky State college. The role of Governor Combs 146-178 Dickey's opinion of the selection process in appointing Kentucky University presidents. The political role of the governors 178-199 The relationships between Martin as president of Eastern and Dickey as president of UK through 1963. The contact on the Council on Public Higher Education. Limited amount of conflict. 19-210 Martin's role on the Council on Public Higher Education. Martin's influence in developing better management policies 210-235 Areas of agreement and disagreement on the Council on Public Higher Education. Amount of graduate work was controversial. Scarcity of resources important 235-264 conflicts over the control of the Community College System. The ideas of the state colleges. The struggles over control 264-286 The idea that UK would become predominantly the professional and graduate school for the state discussed in the early sixties 286-320 Martin's role in integration beginning in the middle fifties 320-336 Dickey's relationship with Martin after Dickey went to the Southern Association of Colleges and Universities 336-370 Dickey's opinion of Martin's political activities 370-394 Martin's reputation among other people in education 394-483 Blank tape 483-511 Dickey's opinion of Martin's abilities and performance. Martin's contact with president Donovan 511-527 Martin's relationship with Kentucky's Governors 527-551 Martin's philosophy of education 551-594 Dickey characterizes Martin's personality 594-625 Anecdotes about Martin 625-643 Martin's role in Kentucky education 643-663 Martin and the presidency of the University of Kentucky 663-682 Close personal relationship with Martin. The importance of Mrs. Martin in Dr. Martin's career Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. none XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh002-dickey.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh002-dickey.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 002 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1/5/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Frank Dickey is a native Kentuckian born in 1917. He received his A.B. from Transylvania, his M.A. from the University of Kentucky, and his Ed.D from Harvard. He began work at the University of Kentucky in 1946, and from 1956-1962 he served as Professor and Dean of Education. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Frank Dickey Bert T. Combs education Minimum Foundation Program Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Clements, Earle Location The location of the interview. Washington, D.C. Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh003-clements.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh003-clements.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 003 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1/5/1977 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Earle Clements education Keen Johnson Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Campbell, Mary Location The location of the interview. Washington, D.C. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) :42:08 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-7 Introduction 11-52 First Recollections of Martin; recollections of working with Martin; his concern for the association's staff 52-86 Martin's political astuteness; involvement in organizing China trip 86-187 Functions of American Association of State Colleges and Universities (AASCU) 188-199 Strong support given to AASCU and National Association of State Universities and Land grant Colleges 266-285 Martin's role in Committee on Federal Relations 286-313 Martin's relationship with Perkins 314-342 Campbell's opinion of Martin's presidency of AASCU 342-415 Martin's selection as President of AASCU; President's functions 415-441 Martin's role in growth of AASCU 441-488 Gap 489-500 Martin's role in AASCU since he left presidency 501-513 Martin's reputation among his colleagues 514-540 Characterization of martin's personality 540-550 Campbell's evaluation of Martin's reputation in education 550 End Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh004-campbell.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh004-campbell.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 004 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1/6/1977 Description An account of the resource Ms. Mary Campbell is Executive Assistant to the Director of the American Association of State Colleges and Universities. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Mary Campbell American Association of State Colleges and Universities (AASCU) Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Peel, Barry Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Prichard, Edward Location The location of the interview. Frankfort, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) :47:38 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview no Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh005-prichard.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh005-prichard.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 005 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1/25/1977 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Edward Prichard education Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Butler, Wendell Location The location of the interview. Frankfort, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) :59:46 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-5 Introduction 24-29 First recollections of Martin 29-61 Martin's involvement in Kentucky politics; The development of the Minimum Foundation Program; Martin's decision to run for State Superintendent of Public Instruction 61-82 Difficulty in amending Kentucky constitution prior to implementation of Minimum Foundation Program 82-90 Implementation and funding of Minimum Foundation Program 91-109 Controversy between Martin and Chandler concerning surplus property division; Martin's chairmanship of Combs' gubernatorial campaign 109-118 Butler's opinion that State Superintendent should be appointed 119-128 Superintendent's involvement in politics; close relationship between education and politics in Kentucky 128-147 Reaction to Martin's chairmanship of Combs' campaign 147-212 Martin's effectiveness as a politician; Martin's background as a good preparation for presidency of Eastern; Martin's selection as president in April, 1960; Accomplishments of his presidency 213-229 Recollections of Martin's tenure as Commissioner of Finance; how Martin's financial expertise aided his administration at Eastern 230-261 Circumstances surrounding Martin's selection as president of Eastern 273-320 Martin's relationship with Board of Regents; Martin's reaction to student protests of late 60's and early 70's 320-350 State Superintendent of Public Instruction's role in overseeing state regional institutions 350-366 Evaluation of Martin's leadership of Eastern 366-385 Martin and the Council on Public Higher Education 385-298 Recollection of regional institutions achieving university status in 1966 398-422 Role of regional universities in Kentucky 422-444 Controversy over continuation of Eastern's development of law enforcement program 445-524 Martin's relationship with other Kentucky political leaders: Clements, Combs, Chandler, Breathitt, Nunn, Ford, Carroll, Perkins 525-545 Martin's expertise in financial matters 545-556 Martin's relationship with the press 556-616 Characterization of Martin's personality; Martin's main contribution to education in Kentucky-in field of higher education 642-684 Assessment of Martin's strengths: vision, planning, discipline, as a leader and education administrator 710 End Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh006-butler.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh006-butler.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 006 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2/2/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Wendell Butler is a native Kentuckian born in 1912. He received his B.A. at Western Kentucky State College and his M.A. at the University of Kentucky. He served in the Kentucky State Senate from 1947-51. from 1952-55, 1960-63, and in 1968 he has served as State Superintendent of Public Instruction. From 1964-67 Mr. Butler served as Commissioner of Agriculture. In 1968 he was a delegate to the Democratic National Convention. He has been a member of the National and Kentucky Education Associations. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Wendell Butler Bert T. Combs Minimum Foundation Program Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Nunn, Louie Location The location of the interview. Lexington, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview no Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. yes, never be used without my permission for broadcast or public presentation except academic purposes. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 007 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2/16/1977 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Louie Nunn education Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Doran, Adron Location The location of the interview. Lexington, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 1:39:30 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview no Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh008-doran.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh008-doran.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 008 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2/23/1977 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Adron Doran education Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Ferguson, Jo Location The location of the interview. Louisville, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-6 Introduction 15-20 First recollections of Martin 20-38 Ferguson's association with Martin in campaign of 1955 38-98 Chandler's attempt to remove surplus property division from department of education; association with teacher's retirement system 98-114 Ferguson's opinion, evaluation of Martin's tenure as Superintendent of Public Instruction 114-124 Martin's impact upon Minimum Foundation Program 125-134 Comparison of Martin with Wendell Butler 134-206 Martin's selection and effectiveness as chairman of Combs' Gubernatorial campaign 206-231 Ferguson's opinion of Martin's political ambitions 231-319 Martin's appointment as Commissioner of Finance, effectiveness as Commissioner of Finance; methods of operation, development of revenue bond financing 320-352 Martin's role in the "truck" deal 353-407 Background surrounding Attorney General's opinion concerning selection of a successor to President O'Donnell; Chandler's choice for a successor 407-423 Awareness of Frankfort observors of Martin's desire to become president of Eastern 423-504 Martin's relationship with Kentucky political leaders: Combs, Breathitt, Nunn, Ford, Perkins 504-546 Ferguson's relationship with Martin after Ferguson left state government 546-658 Martin's strong reputation for fiscal management is well-deserved; comparison of fiscal operations among state educational institutions 658-681 Ferguson's impression of Eastern in 1964 681-722 Martin's reputation for fiscal ability among others involved in school financing 722-802 Relationship between education and finance in Kentucky End of side one 0-26 Martin's relationship with the press, specifically with the Courier-Journal 26-55 Characterization of Martin's personality 55-86 Anecdotes concerning Martin 86-97 Martin's contributions to education in Kentucky 97-117 Ferguson's reaction to Martin's candidacy for state senate 117 End of interview Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh009-fergusonR.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh009-fergusonR.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 009 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 3/9/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr Jo Ferguson first served as Commissioner of Economic Security and from 1961-62 he worked on the Governor's Committee on Constitutional revision. Mr. Ferguson has had a private law practice since 1961. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Jo Ferguson education Minimum Foundation Program Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Grafton, Cornelius Location The location of the interview. Louisville, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-5 Introduction 6-43 First recollection of Martin; when Martin was associated with Finance office of Department of Education, Martin's association with development of standard form letter concerning issuance of revenue bonds 43-57 Association with Martin when Martin was superintendent of Public Instruction 69-91 Recollections of controversy surrounding Martin's management of Combs' gubernatorial campaign; Martin's effectiveness and contributions to the Combs campaign 91-166 Recollections of Martin's short term as Finance commissioner; Martin may have taken job in order to learn how state finances worked; Martin probably had aspirations to become president of Eastern; evaluation of Martin as Commissioner of Finance 167-175 Grafton's opinion of Martin's political ambitions 176-195 Recollections of Martin's selection as president of Eastern 196-231 Martin's relationship with Bert Combs; Martin's strongest loyalty was to Eastern; no knowledge of Martin's relationship with Carl Perkins 231-397 Relationship with Martin since Martin became president of Eastern, very warm professional relationship; financing of dormitory and academic buildings 397-479 Comparison of Martin with Adron Doran, Kelly Thompson, Frank Woods; competition among regional institutions 479-494 Martin's relationship with state agencies 494-543 No major problems associated with sale of Eastern's bonds 544-617 Relationship between politics and education in Kentucky; benefits to university presidents of some degree of political experience 617-675 Characterization of Martin's personality 676-726 Anecdote concerning Martin 726-822 Martin's influence on education in Kentucky 822-846 Reaction to Martin running for Kentucky State Senate 846-880 Summary 880 End of tape Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh010-graftonR.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh010-graftonR.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 010 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 3/9/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Cornelius Grafton is a bond counselor and lawyer in Louisville, Kentucky. He worked extensively for Dr. Martin to assume the presidency. Mr. Grafton helped Dr. Martin during the building boom at Eastern during the 1960's Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Cornelius Grafton Bert T. Combs education Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Fraas, Elizabeth (Libby) Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Press, Leonard Location The location of the interview. Lexington, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 1-5 Introduction 22-28 First recollection of Martin 28-43 Attitudes of Chandler administration to a state educational network 43-54 Development of Educational Televisiont (EVT) network in Kentucky 54-66 Dr. Martin as early supporter of ETV 66-80 Reflections on first proposal for state ETV network 81-111 Dr. Martin's contributions as a member of Kentucky Educational Television KET Advisory board 111-124 Procuring funds for KET 124-154 Reaction to cutting of funds to KET in 1964 154-190 Lobbying for KET funding 190-225 Dr. Martin builds first campus TV studio 225-251 Competition between UK and regional universities 251-274 Dr. Martin's ideas for KET 274-324 History of higher education "consortium" for development of televised college courses 324-357 Relationship between universities and KET and the use of KET by universities 357-372 Production of courses at universities 372-401 Impressions of Dr. Martin's academic interests 401-433 Dr. Martin's active participation in KET and education related issues 433-464 How Martin expressed opposition to specific proposals 464-483 Martin's relationship with Kentucky governors 484-506 Relationship between politics and education in Kentucky 506-517 Personal relationship with Dr. Martin 517-545 Assessment of Martin's role in KET 545-555 Personal anecdote Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh011-pressR.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh011-pressR.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 011 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 3/11/1977 Description An account of the resource From 1952-58 Mr Leonard Press was program supervisor of the University of Kentucky broadcasting service and from 1958-63 he was head of the Department of Radio, Television, and Films. Since 1963 Mr. Press has been Executive Director of Kentucky Education Television Network. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Leonard Press education Kentucky Educational Television (KET) Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Smith, David Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Stovall, Thomas Location The location of the interview. Nashville, TN Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-4 Introduction 5-20 First recollection of Martin; reasons for leaving University of South Florida to become Vice-President for Academic Affairs 21-32 Impressions of Eastern when Stovall arrived 32-45 Martin's philosophy of education 45-65 How Martin envisioned Eastern's role as a regional university in development of higher education in Kentucky 65-127 Martin's administration of Eastern; need for more genuine consultation with faculty and students 127-168 Martin's attitude toward student protests; regional universities and student protests 169-212 Martin's relationship with the council on public higher education; Martin's strong beliefe in university autonomy 212-262 Martin's relationship with other university presidents characterized as friendly rivalry; some jealousy developed among regional institutions and UK; need for some degree of central coordination 262-288 Martin's involvement in Kentucky politics 288-329 Stovall's working relationship with Martin 330-344 Martin's expertise in fiscal affairs 344-367 Stovall's role in developing new academic programs 368-389 Characterization of Martin's personality 389-400 Martin's involvement with Kentucky Education Association 400-421 Anecdote concerning Martin 422-503 Reasons for leaving Eastern 503-528 Martin's contributions to education 528 End of interview Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh012-stovallR.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh012-stovallR.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 012 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 3/15/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Thomas Stovall served as Vice President for Academic Affairs at EKU from 1966-72. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Thomas Stovall education Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Ostar, Allan Location The location of the interview. Washington, D.C. Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-6 Introduction 24-30 First recollections of Martin 31-43 Functions of American Association of State Colleges and Universities (AASCU) 44-63 Martin's philosophy of education; how Martin's life exemplifies the spirit and purpose of state regional universities 64-99 Martin's role in AASCU prior to his election as President of AASCU; Martin's educational and political experience; Martin's involvement with Committee on Federal Relations 99-162 Martin's election to AASCU's board of directors; leadership qualitites, growth of AASCU during Martin's tenure as President; how Martin envisioned growth and development of regional institutions within the nation's system of higher education; growth of EKU; Eastern as a "prototype"regional university 163-185 Martin's sense of humor; Martin's ability to use anecdotes and humor in presenting his views 185-214 Martin's effectiveness and role in attaining favorable Congressional action on educational legislation; Martin's relationship with Carl Perkins; Martin's role in developing educational legislation 215-304 Martin's chief interests in higher education: expanding availability, access to higher education, obtaining increased federal funding for higher education, attention to international education; motivations behind trip to People's Republic of China in 1975 304-316 Martin's selection as President of AASCU 317-352 Martin's leadership of AASCU 353-369 Comparison of Martin's presidency to that of other AASCU presidents 369-439 Interruption 440-456 Martin's role in growth of AASCU; increased stature of the organization, a most effective spokesman for regional universities 457-554 Ostar's conception of the regional university, metamorphosis from single-purpose institution to multi-purpose institution serving wide variety of needs; a regional resource for economic and social development; how EKU met these responsibilities, developed its own missions and goals such as Law Enforcement, Allied Health programs, associate programs; Martin's perceptions of these responsibilities 554-565 Development of similar programs by other AASCU members 565-622 Martin's role in AASCU since his tenure as president of that organization; Martin's visit to Republic of China 622-662 Characterization of Martin's personality 663-684 Martin's role in education 685-708 Martin's ability to work with fellow college presidents 708-742 Reaction to Martin's candidacy for Kentucky State senate 742-781 Summary 782-844 Establishment of AASCU's distinguished alumnus award during Martin's presidency; presentation of award to President Johnson Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh013-ostarR.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh013-ostarR.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 013 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 3/15/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Allan Ostar served as Director of the Joint Office of Institutional Research and the National Association of State Universities and Land Grant Colleges from 1958-66. Since 1966 he has been Executive Director of the American Association of State Colleges and Universities. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Allan Ostar American Association of State Colleges and Universities (AASCU) education Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Perkins, Carl Location The location of the interview. Washington, D.C. Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 1-6 Introduction 11-15 First recollection of Martin 17-28 Recollections of Martin as Superintendent of Public Instruction 29-35 Relationship of politics and education in Kentucky; Martin's political effectiveness in achieving educational goals 35-41 Martin's role in development of Minimum Foundation Program 42-52 Martin's relationship with Earle Clements 53-67 Martin's involvement as Combs' campaign manager in gubernatorial race of 1959 68-83 The "school vote" in Kentucky and their political effectiveness; education in Kentucky 84-101 Perkins' reaction to Martin's selection as President of Eastern; Martin's qualifications for the Presidency of Eastern 101-145 Perkins' working relationship with Martin; Martin's educational accomplishment; Martin's participation in, and advocacy of educational legislation 146-170 Growth of higher education 170-188 Eastern Kentucky University's contributions to Eastern Kentucky 188-214 Eastern's contributions in vocational education, law enforcement, allied health programs; Martin's leadership in establishing these programs 214-240 Influence of federal programs upon higher education; student assistance programs, construction programs; Martin's advocacy of these programs 241-255 Martin's effectiveness as an administrator; Martin's leadership qualities 256-287 Perkins' personal and working relationship with Martin 288-306 Martin's relationship with other Kentucky political leaders; Martin's political abilities 307-321 Comparison of Martin with other university presidents 322-351 Perkins' impression of eastern in 1964 when Perkins received an honorary degree; impression of Eastern since 1964 351-366 Martin's relationship with the press 367-381 Characterization of Martin's personality 382-415 Perkins' immpression of Martin's political philosophy 416-428 Martin's effectiveness as a speaker 429-445 Martin's leadership qualities 445-448 Martin's role as a state and national educational leader 449-464 Perkins' opinion of Martin's candidacy for Kentucky state senate 464 End of interview Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh014-perkins.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh014-perkins.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 014 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 3/16/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Carl Perkins served in the Kentucky House of Representatives in 1940. He worked as Knott County attorney from 1941-48. He then served as Counsel of the Kentucky Highway Department in 1948. In 1949 Mr. Perkins was elected to the United States House of Representatives and he served as chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee since 1967. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Carl Perkins education Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Smith, David Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Hill, Henry Location The location of the interview. Nashville, TN Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-6 Introduction 6-70 First recollections of Martin; as a graduate student under Dr. Hill; several anecdotes concerning Martin 70-148 Characterization of Martin's personality; Martin's success in achieving educational goals 148-224 Relationship between Peabody and Eastern, Hill's recollections of visits to Eastern; of receiving honorary degree from Eastern 224-287 Characterization of Martin's personality; Martin's political abilities 288-333 Relationship between politics and education in Kentucky 334-374 Summary Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no Indexer Aaron Moore Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 015 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 3/16/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Henry Hill is a native Kentuckian born in 1894. He served as professor at UK from 1929-30 and as lecturer in education from 1930-40. Also from 1930-40 Mr Hill served as superintendent of Lexington schools. From 1941-42 he served as a dean at UK. In 1942 Mr. Hill became superintendent of schools in Pittsburg, Pennsylvania and he held that position for three years. From 1945-60 he served as President of George Peabody College. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Henry Hill education Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Breathitt, Edward Location The location of the interview. Washington, D.C. Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-6 Introduction 17-30 First recollections of Martin, Martin's candidacy for and election to Superintendent of Public Instruction, Martin's support of a sales tax for education 31-37 Martin's candidacy for Superintendent of Public Instruction 38-43 Should office of Superintendent of Public instruction be appointive? 43-54 Comparison of Martin with other Superintendents of Public Instruction; Martin's political qualities 54-63 Martin's involvement in development and implementation of Minimum Foundation Program 63-74 Relationship with Chandler concerning education in Kentucky 75-121 Reaction to Martin's involvement in Combs campaign of 1959; initiation of Combs gubernatorial organization of 1959 race 122-161 Importance of school vote as a political base in Kentucky; tax structure in Kentucky; underfinanced education system in Kentucky; political, taxpayer resentment after funding; Combs-Ford gubernatorial race in 1971 evidence of anti-educational feeling 161-191 Martin's effectiveness as a political campaign manager, relationship with Clements; political tactics of the campaign 191-209 Martin's further political ambitions- limited to presidency of Eastern; service as Commissioner of Finance; passage of sales tax, Martin's role 210-233 Relationship with Martin-Breathitt: Commissioner of Personnel, Martin: Commissioner of Finance 233-246 Martin's service as Commissioner of Finance; how experience and knowledge gained there aided him as President of Eastern 247-257 Martin's role in enactment of sales tax 258-275 Martin's role in truck controversy 276-284 Those who knew that Martin desired to become president of Eastern 300 Intimate relationship between politics and education in Kentucky; necessity for political expertise for any measure of success 300-327 Growing power of Council on Public Higher Education (CPHE) may reduce institutional competition; Education creativity of Martin; law enforcement program 328-363 Reaction of others to Martin's election as President of Eastern; necessity of political awareness on part of university presidents 363-384 Relationship with Martin from 1960-1963; contacts with Martin prior to Breathitt's gubernatorial campaign in 1963 384-426 Strong competition between state educational institutions; competition intensified between 1964 and 1966 as available revenue declined 426-502 Telephone interruption 503-530 Competition between regional universities and UK 531-581 Martin's role in helping regional institutions achieve university status; attitude of UK; Breathitt's reasons for supporting university status for institutions; role to be played by CPHE 581-605 Contributions of EKU to state and region; continued efforts by Martin in improving quality of university's services 606-628 Reasons for realigning membership of CPHE 629-645 Competition between higher education and public education; Gubernatorial primary race between Ford and Combs 645-676 Martin's role in integration of public education 677-695 Martin's expertise in fiscal management 695-727 Impressions of Eastern in mid-sixties 727-772 Governor's role in appointment of regents; relationship with Martin in selection of regents 773-817 Relationship with Martin while Breathitt was Governor 817 End of reel 1 7-32 Breathitt's relationship with other university presidents; Doran, Thompson, Woods, Oswald 33-60 Martin's relationship with other Kentucky governors; Combs, Johnson, Chandler, Waterfield, Clements, Nunn, Ford 60-71 Martin's relationship with the press 71-83 Martin's political philosophy; progressive, committed to public education 84-102 Characterization of Martin's personality 102-130 Assessment of Martin's strengths and weaknesses as an educational administrator 130-140 Martin's main contribution to Kentucky education: saw the need for a strongly suppored comprehensive educational system in Kentucky; innovative policies that he introduced 140-147 Breathitt's reaction to Martin's candidacy for state senate 147-159 Final comments Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh016-breathittR.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh016-breathittR.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 016 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 3/15/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Edward Breathitt is a native Kentucky born in 1924. He served as a member of Kentucky House of Representatives from 1952-58 and as Personnel Commissioner from 1959-60. He then served on the Kentucky Public Service Commission from 1961-62. Mr. Breathitt then served as Governor of Kentucky from 1963-67. He has since served as Vice-President of the Southern Railway. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Edward Breathitt education Minimum Foundation Program Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Hensley, Robert Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-6 Introduction 14-22 First recollections of Martin 23-38 Martin's relationship with Clements, political protégé of Clements 38-50 Hensley's lack of knowledge concerning Chandler-Martin rift over surplus property 69-74 Martin's role in adoption of Minimum Foundation Program 74-83 Evaluation of Martin's tenure as Superintendent of Public Instruction 84-90 Office of Superintendent of Public Instruction should remain elective position 90-132 Reaction to Martin's management of Combs' gubernatorial race while Superintendent of Public Instruction; Martin's effectiveness as political campaign manager 133-148 Martin's qualifications for Commissioner of Finance 148-157 Hensley's recollection of when Martin first expressed interest in presidency of EKU 157-174 Chandler's choice for presidency of Eastern; Clyde Reeves 175-180 Hensley's lack of knowledge concerning Attorney General's opinion regarding appointment of a successor to O'Donnell 181-235 Board of Regents meeting of April 13, 1960; Martin's election to presidency of Eastern: Regents concerned with selection of most highly qualified individual; conclusion of some Regents that Eastern ready to expand its mission and function, become a regional university 235-265 Strengths of Martin's candidacy; previous educational experience determined experienced educational leader; political effectiveness and experience important in Martin's success 265-279 Relationship of politics and education in Kentucky, necessity of the relationship 280-310 Comparison of Martin and former President O'Donnell, attributes of O'Donnell's administrative abilities; characterization of Martin's personality 342-389 Martin's first months as president; immediately began laying foundation for development of Eastern into a multi-purpose regional university 390-429 Activity of Board of Regents during Martin's first 2 years in office; expanded role for Board developed by Martin; lack of any major problems; opponents of Martin's election quickly become strong supporters of Martin's administration 430-452 Martin's strong management of fiscal affairs 453-456 Relationship with Martin since Hensley left Eastern's Board of Regents 456-479 Relationship with Kentucky governors: Combs, Clements, Chandler 479-501 Martin's relationship with the press 501-541 Characterization of Martin's political philosophy "right in the middle" 545-576 Characterization of Martin's educational philosophy; teaching philosophy would be related to political philosophy 576-594 Description of Martin's personality 595-669 Comparison with other university and college presidents in Kentucky 619-688 Martin's main contribution to education in Kentucky; development of Eastern into a multi-purpose regional university 689-722 Major changes at Eastern since Hensley attended Eastern in 1932 723-799 Summary- Martin's transformation of Eastern 799 End of interview Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh017-hensley.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh017-hensley.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 017 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 3/25/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Robert Hensley is a businessman and was a member of the Board of Regents of Eastern Kentucky State College from 1958-62. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Robert Hensley Board of Regents education Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Fraas, Elizabeth (Libby) Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Wilson, Richard Location The location of the interview. Frankfort, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 1-4 Introduction 23-34 Personal and professional relationship with Martin 34-59 Disagreements between Martin and the Louisville Courier-Journal's editorial page 59-67 Martin's reaction to story on censure of student regent by EKU's Board of Regents in 1969 67-92 Martin's reaction to Sedler's handling of coed's suit against EKU for sex discrimination 92-104 Martin's relationship with UK 104-114 Martin's intellect and pursuit of EKU's interests 114-124 UK's community colleges 124-14- Martin's ability to foresee new programs 140-185 Shift toward technological programs 185-200 History of Council on Public Higher education 200-224 Role of regional universities 224-239 Martin's relationship with CPHE 239-252 Martin's role in financing higher education 252-260 Martin's disagreements with CPHE's decision 260-272 University of Louisville's entry into state system 272-304 Merger of Chase Law School with Northern Kentucky University 304-335 Politics in public higher education 335-395 How college presidents are selected 395-408 Martin as a lobbyist 408-428 Martin's reaction to super board proposal 428-462 Martin's influence in political world 463-476 Martin's relationship with Kentucky governors; Combs and Breathitt 476-492 University status for regional colleges 493-501 Relationship with Governor Nunn 501-528 Relationship with Governor Ford 528-531 Relationship with Governor Carroll 531-549 Comparison of Adron Doran and Robert Martin 549-577 Martin as architect for finance plan for higher education 577-605 Martin's national stature 605-623 Comments on Martin's run for state senator 623-634 Comments on how Martin expressed dissatisfaction with Wilson's story 634-664 Steve Wilborn incident; comments on Martin's attitudes toward student rights at EKU 664-678 Relationship between Martin and Eastern Progress 678-690 Martin's attitude toward student rights 690-714 Relationship between Martin and presidents of bloc. 714-743 Relationship between Martin and presidents of regional colleges 743-791 Anecdotes about Martin 791-794 End Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh018-wilson.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh018-wilson.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 018 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 4/18/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Richard Wilson works as the educational feature writer for the Louisville Courier-Journal. He is familiar with Dr. Martin's career and relationship with the press. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Richard Wilson Council on Public Higher Education education Louisville Courier-Journal Robert R. Martin student rights Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Smith, David Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Albright, A.D. Location The location of the interview. Highland Heights, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-4 First recollections of Martin 4-36 Recollections of Martin during Martin's term as Superintendent of Public Instruction; Martin's professional preparation and educational interests 36-68 Martin's philosophy of education 69-93 How Martin envisioned Eastern's role as a regional institution in the development of higher education in Kentucky 93-129 Martin's relationship with UK 129-147 Martin's relationship with Presidents Dickey, Oswald, Singletary 147-168 Compromise that allowed regional institutions to achieve university status 168-267 Martin's effectiveness in the Council on Public Higher Education; Martin's perception of the CPHE as a threat to the autonomy of the regional institutions; Martin's reaction to the master plan for Kentucky Higher Education; reaction to the absorption of the University of Louisville and the development of Northern Kentucky State University in Kentucky higher education 268-313 Martin's involvement and effectiveness in Kentucky politics 314-404 CPHE's effectiveness in overseeing higher education; Martin's recognition of need for greater participation by faculty and students in university affairs 448-466 Martin's expertise in finance 466-505 Martin's contributions to higher education in Kentucky: financing, expansion of educational opportunities 506-527 Anecdote concerning Albright 527-583 Characterization of Martin's personality 584 End of interview Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. yes, in the event of any publication emerging from the taping, a preliminary copy of any passages is requested. XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh019-albrightR.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh019-albrightR.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 019 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 6/7/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. A.D. Albright served on the Tennessee Department of Education from 1939-49. From 1950-54 he was a Professor at George Peabody College and Professor of Education at UK from 1954-57. Mr. Albright served as Executive Dean from 1957-61, Provost from 1960-62, and Executive Vice President from 1962-71. From 1971-76 he served as Executive Director of the Committee of Public Higher Education. Since 1976 he has been president of Northern Kentucky University. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with A.D. Albright education finances Politics Robert R. Martin student rights Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Smith, David Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Sublett, James Location The location of the interview. Columbus, OH Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-3 Introduction 19-24 First recollections of Martin 24-30 Martin's involvement with Minimum Foundation Program; involvement probably greater than anyone else 31-43 Sublett's chairmanship of Martin's campaign for office of State Superindent of Public Instruction 43-54 Reasons why Martin ran for superintendency; altruistic nature of his character; excellent reception accorded his candidacy by educators in Kentucky 55-94 Martin's reorganization of Department of Education; Sublett became Assistant Superintendent; Sublett's responsibilities as Assistant Superintendent; successful reorganization of Department of Education; Sublett's recollections of Butler controversy 95-100 Sublett's opinion that Martin's chief accomplishment as Superintendent was his outstanding administration of the Department of Education 101-128 Major problem facing Kentucky education was money. In addition to foundation program, enactment of sales tax had greatest impact in improving Kentucky education. Martin's stance on desegregation; practical stance, neither a segregationist nor an integrationist 128-150 Martin's relationship with Happy Chandler. Martin worked well with Chandler-appointed State Board of Education 150-180 Martin's heavy involvement in politics; involvement primarily limited to state offices, controversy surrounding Martin's decision to act as chairman for Combs' Gubernatorial race in 1959, smartest move he ever made. Combs' favorable attitude towards education stemmed from relationship with Martin 180-237 Martin's close relationship with Combs, viewed things in the same way; Earle Clements-most maligned Governor that Kentucky had in recent history as far as education is concerned. Breathitt-enjoyed good relationship with Martin. Martin enjoyed good relationships with the Governors. Martin more successful than others in obtaining funds for Eastern. Martin enjoyed tremendous relationship with General Assembly; won bipartisan support for education 237-263 Martin's political aspirations for higher elective office; trial balloons floated for Lt. Governor in 1959; would have been interested in presidency of UK 263-282 Sublett's recollections of Martin's selection as President of Eastern. Political considerations may have created some dissension over his candidacy 296-308 Relationship between politics and education in Kentucky 308-343 Relationship with Martin since Martin left Frankfort for Richmond. Martin's involvement with Kentucky Teachers Retirement System. Sublett's observations on the growth and changes in Eastern; his administrative abilities 343-357 Martin's philosophy of education: the greatest good for the greatest number. Strong belief in the universality of educational opportunity 371-410 Sublett's characterization of Martin's personality; a strong, dominant character; a weakness may be that he is unaware that some cannot or will not meet his demanding pac e and as a result he dismisses their qualifications; he expects more than some capable people can deliver 410-451 Anecdote concerning Martin 451-483 Martin's relationship with the press, basically good with reporters, but the relationship with the editorial board of the Courier-Journal has not been very good; primary reason stems from a difference in educational philosophies 483-492 Martin's relationship with Kentucky Education Association has been pretty good 493-531 Martin's main contributions to education in Kentucky: establishment and funding of foundation program; on higher education: establishment of strong regional university at Eastern (Law Enforcement, Nursing programs); participation in national educational associations 531-548 Reaction to Martin's campaign for Kentucky State Senate, Martin is outstanding Kentucky educator of this century Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh020-sublettR.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh020-sublettR.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 020 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 8/9/1977 Description An account of the resource From 1950-53 Mr. James Sublett worked as Director of Instruction of Jefferson County Schools and from 1953-56 he was Assistant Superintendent of Jefferson County schools. In 1955 Mr Sublett was State Campaign Chairman for Robert R. Martin's race for Superintendent of Public Instruction. From 1956-58 he served as Assistant Superintendent of Public Instruction and from 1958-70 he served as Executive Secretary of the Kentucky Teachers Retirement System. Since 1970 Mr. Sublett has been Executive Director of the Ohio Teachers Retirement System. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with James Sublett education Politics Press Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Smith, David Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Whitman, Charles, Mrs. Location The location of the interview. Columbus, OH Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-22 Martin's birthdate; age relationship to other children in the Martin family. Mrs. Whitman, two years older, had the responsibility for looking after him. Martin was very popular as a child. 23-60 Martin's father owned a flour mill, but sold it and purchased a farm. Martin's first year of school was spent at a country school, but the children later attended school in Stanford. A speech impairment proved to be a slight handicap for Martin in his first years of school. Martin's family moved often as Mr. Martin was often trading in real estate. Children rode to town in a horse and buggy until the seventh or eighth grade. 61-103 Martin was a good student and he seemed to have a photographic memory; he made A;s in his subjects with little apparent difficulty. Anecdote concerning writing contest. Martin was active in debating, but he didn't participate in athletics as he was very thin and chores at home necessitated his presence there after school. The Martin children provided their own entertainment; horseback riding, races, ballgames, swimming, checkers, and Rook, the only card game they were allowed to play. 103-143 Martin was rather quiet and was not particularly interested in girls. The Martins' encouraged their children to obtain the best education that they possibly could. Martin enjoyed debating, arguing, and practical jokes. Anecdotes concerning horse-riding and corn planting. 144-241 The Depression caused the Martins' to lose their property in Lincoln County and in early 1930 they moved to Madison County. Bob stayed in Lincoln County to finish his last year of high school. In late 1930, Martin entered Eastern and had just enough money to pay his entrance fees and transportation costs. 242-282 Mrs. Whitman's recollections of Eastern in the early 1930's; student body numbered approximately 150. Martin was elected president of his senior class and began his teaching career after graduation and volunteered for the Army during World War II. 283-313 Martin saw a need for better education in Kentucky and set out to do something about it. Their mother hoped that one of her children would do something outstanding and Martin's accomplishments would have made her very proud. Mrs. Whitman is proud to be his sister. He is always planning or looking forward to bigger and better things and he is still planning to do something worthwhile with his life, even though he has retired. 314 End of tape Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh021-whitmanR.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh021-whitmanR.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 021 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 8/23/1977 Description An account of the resource Mrs. Charles Whitman was born in Lincoln County Kentucky. She is the sister of Robert R. Martin, former President of EKU. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Mrs. Charles Whitman EKU Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Todd, Russell Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) :52:09 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 00:10-00:45 Introduction 1:35-6:55 Todd's appointment to Eastern's Board of Regents ; Supporters felt he had 'proper background', member of Richmond City Board of Education, Berea College Board of Trustees; had an interest in education and a knowledge of school finance. His selection apparently had little to do with politics. 6:55-8:00 Impressions of Dr. Donovan and Dr. O'Donnell 8:00-10:20 Major changes at Eastern from mid-1920's up to 1960 10:20-20:45 Todd's recollections of events surrounding selection of Martin as President of Eastern. Todd's initial impression of Martin. Board of Regents meeting at which Martin was elected. Todd's support of Martin's outline for Eastern's development; impressed by Martin's foresight. 20:45-28:20 Martin's relationship with the Board of Regents; development of Arlington Association and Eastern Kentucky University Foundation- initially opposed by some Board members. Involvement and participation of Board members. Todd's participation on, and opinion of the Council on Public Higher Education 28:20-30:10 Lack of any strong jealousies or rivalries among the regional institutions and the University of Kentucky as expressed in the Council on Public Higher Education 30:10-35:20 Most important changes that occurred at Eastern while Todd was on the Board of Regents; lack of any disappointments for Todd while he served on Board. Todd expressed some reservations about allowing fraternities and sororities on campus 35:20-36 Role of politics in Kentucky education 36-38:55 Martin's relationship with Bert Combs; Edward Breathitt; Louie Nunn 38:55-41:25 Relatively small degree of student protest at Eastern 41:25-44:30 Martin's relationship with other Kentucky educators: Wendell Butler, Adron Doran 44:30-46:40 Martin's strengths as an administrator; superbly trained and experienced 1:10-3:00 Martin's relationship with the press 3:0-5:20 Comparison of Martin with other Kentucky college presidents 5:20-7:05 Characterization of Martin's personality 7:05-8:15 Relationship with Martin since Todd left the Board of Regents End of Interview Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh034-todd.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh034-todd.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 034 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 9/23/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Russell Todd was born in 1901 and attended Berea College. He received his D.D.S. at the University of Louisville. He is a dentist living in Richmond, Kentucky. Mr. Todd has written numerous articles and the book <em>This Is Boone Country</em>. He has served on the EKU Board of Regents. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Russell Todd Board of Regents education EKU Presidents Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Morton, Casey Morton, Thelma Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 1:32:35 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-5 Introduction 28-56 Introductions of Casey and Thelma Morton; dates of attendance at Eastern and reasons for their attendance 56-108 Initial impressions of Eastern and Richmond 108-155 Recollections of the effects of the Depression 155-184 Recollections of campus life in the 1930's. 185-204 Recollections of Eastern's physical plant and campus 204-272 Jobs for students on campus and in Richmond; types of examinations given by Eastern's faculty; faculty members remembered by the Mortons 272-495 Recollections of campus life; frequency that students went home; other faculty members remembered by the Mortons 522-819 Recollections of Dr. Donovan; requirement to attend chapel and commencement programs; other faculty members recalled by the Mortons; quality of the academic programs and instruction at Eastern; behavior of Eastern students was very good; popularity of sporting events on the campus; campus activities and clubs; scarcity of newspapers, radios, magazines on campus End of side one 0-21 Repeat of the end of side one 21-134 Social activities on the campus and in Richmond; trip to Frankfort concerning equalization bill; trip to juvenile reformatory 134-151 Other courses and teachers enjoyed by the Mortons 151-172 Recollections of Bob Martin 172-235 Recollections of other students 257-335 Geographical area from which Eastern attracted students; other students remembered by the Mortons 335-371 Impressions of Eastern today; comparison with the institution when they attended in the 1930's 371-399 Concluding Comments End of interview Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh037-morton.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh037-morton.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 037 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 10/1/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Casey and Mrs. Thelma Morton attended EKU during the 1930's. They recollect about their years at Eastern and their friendship with Dr. Robert R. Martin during those Depression years. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Casey & Thelma Morton EKU Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Burnett, James Location The location of the interview. Shelbyville, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-0:50 Interviewer's Introduction 0:02:10 Pause in tape 02:10-11:50 Mr. Burnett reflects on his early background, and why he attended Eastern. He talks about Eastern during the 1930's registration, sports, social life. 11:50-13:35 Burnett remembers his freshman year. 13:35-15:10 The number of students who failed at Eastern, and Eastern's high standards 15:10-45:20 Burnett reflects on former Eastern faculty members- Dr. Donovan, Dr. Jones, Emma Case, Dr. Keith, Mrs. Keith, Dr. Adams, Dr. Ferrell, Dr. Doris, Dr. Richards, Dr. Farris, Dr. Coates, Tom Samuels, Dr. Hummel, Dr. Denison, Dr. McKinney, Thomas McDonough, Dr. Keen, Dr. Gumbert, Dr. Cox, Miss Crick, Dr. Rumbell, Ms. Hood, Dr. Clark, Smith Park, Dr. Engle, Liza Hanson, Mr. Portwood, George Emby, Dr. Cuff, Dr. Carter, Dr. Kennamer, Ms. Gibson, Dr. Coell, Richard Edwards, Turkey Hughes, Mr. Rankin, Dr. VanPuersem, Anna Sneed, Dr. Herndon 45:25-46:40 Mr. Burnett reflects on an incident with Dr. Donovan 46:40 End of Side 1 0-2:20 Continuation of Dr. Donovan story 02:20-06:35 Burnett reflects on his activities as a student; athletics, social activities, clubs. 06:35-09:40 Burnett remembers Dr. Martin as a student and his relationship with Dr. Donovan 09:40-16:20 Burnett recalls the other students he knew at Eastern. Dedication of the Weaver Building. 16:20-18:0 Conflicts among students and teachers 18:0-42:0 Burnett talks about other students and teachers he knew 42:0-45:0 Burnett evaluates Eastern's growth 45:0 End of Second Side 0:0-35:0 Burnett recalls his personal experiences from 1930-34 and he details the physical growth of Eastern. Burnett also briefly recalls his teaching, coaching, and administrative experience in Shelbyville. Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 038 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 10/9/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. James Burnett is a native Kentuckian and he was a classmate of Robert R. Martin during the 1930's. He attended Eastern from 1930-34. After graduating from Eastern, he became a teacher, coach, and administrator in Shelbyville for over forty years. Mr. Burnett knew Dr. Robert Martin, although relatively little, during those depression years as a student. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with James Burnett EKU faculty Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Smith, David Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Sparks, Harry Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-19 Introduction 21-194 First recollections of Martin; relationship with Martin prior to Martin's election as Superintendent of Public Instruction; Martin's role in the Minimum Foundation Program; Martin's expertise in the financing of public education 195-280 Martin's decision to seek office of Superintendent of Public Instruction 280-429 Major problems facing education in Kentucky in the 1950's; development of higher standards for teaching in public schools; comments upon desegregation in Kentucky schools 430-482 Sparks' evaluation of Martin's effectiveness as an administrator and as Superintendent of Public Instruction 483-627 Sparks' recollections of Martin's activities in the gubernatorial campaign of 1959 627-695 Recollections of Martin's tenure as Commissioner of Finance; increased appropriations for education 695-781 Martin's relationship with KEA; Martin's strengthening of the personnel of the Department of Education 781-853 Recollections of Martin's selection as President of Eastern; Sparks knew that Martin would be selected and support of Wendell Butler would be attained 853-883 Martin's interest in the administration of the regional institutions when he was Superintendent of Public Instruction 883-1031 Martin's qualifications for the presidency of Eastern; reaction of others to Martin's selection; Sparks' opinion of former policy of having the Superintendent of Public Instruction serve on the Boards of Regents and Trustees of the states' institutions of higher education and his desire to see the Superintendent of Public Instruction become an appointed position 1031-1131 Sparks' relationship with Martin when Sparks was Superintendent of Public Instruction; Sparks' comments on the purpose of the Board of Regents; effectiveness of the Board of Regents 1131-1205 Martin's effectiveness as President of Eastern; his capabilities as a planner and administrator End of side one 0-159 Martin's effectiveness in the Council on Public Higher Education 160-440 Martin's support of, and belief in autonomy for the regional institutions; Martin's, Doran's, Sparks', and Nunn's collaboration to prevent an appropriation of public funds to the University of Louisville before it became a state institution 443-556 Characterization of relationships and the competition among the regional institutions and the University of Kentucky 556-606 Martin's role in the attainment of university status for the regional state colleges 606-808 Characterization of of the relationship between politics and education; percentage of state funds appropriated for public education; refining aspect of competition among state's institutions of higher education 808-863 Martin's relationship with other University presidents; Martin's effectiveness as President of Eastern 863-908 Sparks' characterization of Martin's personality 909-1027 Sparks' reaction to Martin's candidacy for the Kentucky State Senate; Sparks' comments on his own unsuccessful attempt for the Senate in 1975. 1027-1099 Martin's chief contributions to education; Sparks' comments upon the period of the 1960's and early 1970's Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 039 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 10/12/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Harry Sparks is a native Kentuckian born in 1907. He received his A.B. at Transylvania College and his M.A. and Ed. D. at the University of Kentucky. From 1934-41 Mr. Sparks served as Superintendent of Irvington, Kentucky schools. He worked as professor of Education at Murray Kentucky State College from 1948-52 and he served as Superintendent of Public Instruction of Kentucky from 1964-68. Mr. Sparks held the position of President of Murray Kentucky State University from 1968-73 and was named President Emeritus in 1974. Among the awards he has received were the Distinguished Alumnus Award of U.K. in 1969 and the Civilian Service Award by the U.S. Army in 1971. Mr. Sparks has served as President of the Association of Colleges and Secondary Schools. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Harry Sparks education EKU Kentucky Education Association (KEA) Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Moore, William Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) :38:09 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0:10-1:0 Music for your listening enjoyment 1:20-2:20 Introduction 3:20-3:45 Recollections of Martin as a student 4:0-5:05 Moore's recollections of his career: professor of economics, chairman of Commerce Department, Dean of the College 5:05-6:25 Moore's opinion of the Council on Public Higher Education 6:25-7:15 Moore's chairmanship of the Commission on Higher Education 7:20-8:20 Moore's recollections of his political involvements and his associations with state government 8:30-8:45 Importance of politics to a career in education 8:45-10:55 Comparison between Presidents Donovan and O'Donnell; campus construction and growth of student enrollment 11:0-12:30 Impact of the Depression upon education; imposed some hardship upon students 12:30-13:30 Characterization of student body during 1930's 13:30-15:35 Changes in Eastern in the post World War II years; fairly rapid growth in enrollment 15:35-16:50 Dr. Donovan's academic policies 16:50-18:55 Conditions at Eastern during the 1950's. Involvement in study of teacher education in the nation 18:55-19:30 Evolution of Eastern to expand beyond teacher education opposed by some 19:30-20:50 Other students at Eastern who achieved success in their professions 20:50-21:25 Moore's belief that political influence in higher education is not as great as it was 21:25-22:40 Moore's recollections of the development and implementation of the Minimum Foundation Program 23:20-24:20 Comparison of Martin with O'Donnell; Martin with Donovan 24:20-25:20 Martin's relationship with other Kentucky educators: Wendell Butler, Lyman Ginger, Adron Doran 25:20-28:50 Martin's relationship with Kentucky politicians: Bert Combs, Edward Breathitt, Louie Nunn, Carl Perkins 28:50-29:45 Greatest changes in Eastern since Martin became President: achieving university status, expanding academic offerings, campus construction 29:50-31:50 Characterization of Martin's personality 31:50-32:30 Description of Martin's philosophy of education 32:30-34:20 Comparison of Martin with other university presidents: Doran, Thompson, Dickey 34:20-35:10 Highlights of Martin's presidency, achieving university status, growth of student body and academic offerings 35:10-35:20 Moore's working relationship with Martin 35:20-35:45 Comparison of Martin and J.C. Powell, Moore's lack of knowledge to make a comparison 35:45-37:40 Greatest change in Eastern during Moore's association with the institution End of interview Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh040-moore.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh040-moore.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 040 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 10/17/1977 Description An account of the resource Dr. William Moore holds a diploma from the Eastern Kentucky State Normal School, and the degrees of Bachelor of Arts, Master of Arts, and Doctor of Philosophy from UK. For two years he was a student of the College of Law of the University of Kentucky. His experience includes rural school teaching; principal of the Corinth, Kentucky, Independent Grade School, two years; principal of the Clay County High School, Manchester, Kentucky, four and one-half years; sometime, Director of Finance, State Department of Education; and sometime, Commissioner of Revenue, State of Kentucky. Dr. Moore was elected Dean of Eastern in 1944. At the time of his election he was serving as Commissioner of Revenue for the State of Kentucky having taken a leave of absence from Eastern. He had been with the institution since 1928 and he held the position of Dean of the Faculty. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with William Moore EKU Herman Donovan Minimum Foundation Program Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Smith, David Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Downing, Dero Location The location of the interview. Bowling Green, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) :59:49 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-0:40 Introduction 0:40-1:40 Downing's first recollections of Martin 1:40-4:40 Downing's relationship with Martin when Martin served as Superintendent of Public Instruction; Downing's background as an educator; Martin's association with Western when he was Superintendent of Public instruction 4:40-6:30 Major problems facing education in Kentucky during the 1950's; How effectively Martin dealt with these problems 6:30-10:50 Downing's knowledge of Martin's involvement with the implementation of the Minimum Foundation Program. Martin's ideas for improving the office of Superintendent of Public Instruction. Downing's speculations on why efforts to make office an appointive one have failed. 10:50-12:40 Downing's recollections of Martin's decision to become chairman of Bert Combs campaign organization 12:40-15:0 Downing's recollections of Martin's service as Finance commissioner; Martin's experience in finance made him well qualified for the post 15:0-17:0 Martin's selection as president of Eastern; decision was anticipated and applauded. Martin was particularly well suited for the job. 17:0-26:45 Downing's opinion of Martin's administrative abilities. Comparison of Martin with Kelly Thompson; belief that intense competition exists among state's educational institutions is vastly overstated; competition does exist, but it is of a wholesome and beneficial nature. Tremendous leadership provided by all of the presidents of the state's regional institutions during the late 1950's and the 1960's; the massive responsibilities and challenges they faced in transforming their institutions from small state colleges to regional universities. 26:45-30:40 Further comments on the competition that exists among the regional institutions. Martin brought a new sense of pride and excellence to Eastern when he became president. Martin was a good man for the time. Compared to Kelly Thompson. 30:40-35:25 Leadership qualities of Presidents Martin and Thompson; qualities provided a margin of difference that is very noticeable. Strong support that Dr. Martin received from his administrators 35:25-41:50 Movement to achieve university status for Kentucky's regional state colleges. Recognition to what had been achieved. Opposition to the proposed change in status. End of side one 0-5:50 Downing's opinion that Martin was correct in strongly supporting a large measure of autonomy for the regional institutions. History will prove Martin to have been correct in his desire to preserve autonomy 5:50-10:45 Downing's characterization of Martin's personality 10:45-11:45 Martin's main contribution to education in Kentucky: his commitment to education at all levels. 11:45-13:30 Final comments end of interview Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh041-downing.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh041-downing.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 041 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 10/21/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Dero Downing is a native Kentuckian born in 1921. He received his A.B. at Western Kentucky Teachers College and he received his M.S. and Ed.S. at George Peabody College. Mr. Downing was awarded an honorary L.L.D. at Murray State University in 1972. From 1946-56 he was a teacher and coach at College High School in Bowling, Green, Kentucky. Mr. Downing served as Dean of Administration, Dean of Business Affairs, University President of Business Affairs, and President of Western Kentucky University. He has also served as a member of the Committee on Higher Education and the Council of Public Higher Education. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Dero Downing education EKU Presidents Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Smith, David Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Thompson, Kelly Location The location of the interview. Bowling Green, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) :52:37 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0:55-1:35 First Recollections of Martin 1:35-2:25 Thompson's lack of knowledge concerning Martin's role in Minimum Foundation Program 2:25-3:30 Why Martin ran for the office of Superintendent of Public Instruction 3:30-4:20 How Martin's candidacy was received by educators throughout the state 4:20-6:40 Major problems facing education in Kentucky during the 1950's and how Martin dealt with them. Martin was very effective in ending antipathy and apathy towards education 6:40-9:20 Thompson's knowledge of reactions to Martin's decision to become involved as chairman of Combs campaign. Some educators expressed surprise, but Thompson remembers no condemnation from educators. Decision proved to be a wise one for Martin. 9:20-10:20 Thompson's recollections of Martin's service as Finance Commissioner 10:20-15:00 Thompson's relationship with Martin when Martin was Superintendent of Public Instruction; Martin was excellent administrator and organizer; took an active role as ex-officio chairman of Western's Board of Regents. His education and experience enabled him to alleviate the problems educators faced 15:00-17:25 Thompson's recollection of the reactions to Martin's selection as President of Eastern. Martin's selection was "a natural event." 17:25-21:00 Thompson's evaluation of Martin's administrative abilities. Thompson's and Martin's predecessors had struggled during a period of "higher educational poverty." Upon their accession, Thompson and Martin faced tremendous challenges. 21:00-22:45 Main problems that Thompson faced in transforming Western from a small state college to a regional university 22:45-27:45 Martin's expertise in fiscal management. Martin's role in developing increased bonding capacity of the state's institutions; prevented institutions from strangling in the tremendous enrollment increases. Martin deserves more credit than anyone in masterminding this 27:45-33:15 Martin's effectiveness as a spokesman for Eastern on the Council on Public Higher Education. Co-operative competition that existed among regional institutions; total picture of higher education placed ahead of the interests of any institution 33:15-36:30 Thompson's opinion of how Martin viewed the Council on Public Higher Education's attempt to curb the autonomy of the regional institutions 36:30-40:40 Thompson's recollections of the successful effort to attain university status in 1966. Opposition to the granting of university status 40:40-43:30 Martin's relationships with other university presidents End of side one 0-1:50 Thompson's desire not to characterize Martin's personality or his relationship with the press 1:50-3:00 Martin's main contributions to education in Kentucky: his development of Eastern 3:00- Thompson's final comments; his respect and admiration for Martin End of Interview Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh042-thompson.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh042-thompson.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 042 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 10/21/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Kelly Thompson is a native Kentuckian born in 1909. He received both his B.A. and M.A. from Western Kentucky University. He also received an honorary degree LL.D. from Morris Harvey College in 1957. From 1935-44 Mr. Thompson served as Public Relations Director and from 1946-54 he served as Assistant to the President at Western Kentucky University. In 1955 Mr. Thompson was made Acting President and from 1955-69 he served as President of Western Kentucky University. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Kelly Thompson education EKU Presidents Robert R. Martin Western Kentucky University Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Castle, Shirley Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-0:40 Interviewer's introduction 0:40-13:15 Castle talks about his early life and general background. His difficulties in gaining an education because of poor transportation; his recollections of his school years. 13:15-19:35 Castle's years in the 1930's with the Civilian Conservation Corps. 19:35-23:0 Castle enters Murray State College in 1936 and recalls those years. 23:0-24:0 Castle enters the University of Kentucky as a graduate student in history in 1941. 24:0-30:10 Castle marries and enters the Army in 1942. He speaks about his family. He retired as a Colonel in the U.S. Army in 1967. 30:10-35:40 Castle reflects about his first meeting with Dr. Robert Martin, their school days together 35:40-47:10 Castle recalls how he came to Eastern in 1967 and recalls their school days together. 47:10 End of side 1 0-10:05 Continuation of the school days reflections 10:05-15:45 Castle describes his relationship with Dr. Martin at Eastern 15:45-19:40 Castle discusses Dr. Martin's outstanding achievements. 19:40-21:15 Castle's feelings about Dr. Martin running for public office 21:15-24:35 The importance of Dr. Martin's background in politics after coming to Eastern 24:35-30:35 Castle's opinions concerning politics in education; Council on Public Higher Education 30:35-35:0 Dr. Martin's general philosophy of education. 35:0-35:50 Dr. Martin's relationship with the press. 35:50 Dr. Martin's Personality Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 059 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 11/4/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Shirley Castle is a native Kentuckian born in Lincoln County. He was a classmate of Robert R. Martin at Stanford High School. Mr. Castle served for a considerable amount of time in the United States Army. He has also served as Director of Personnel at Eastern Kentucky University. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Shirley Castle Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) education EKU military military service Politics Robert R. Martin United States Army Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Ginger, Lyman Location The location of the interview. Frankfort, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) :38:57 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-01:15 Interviewer's introduction 01:15-02:30 Pause in Tape 02:30-05:05 Mr. Ginger discusses when he first met Dr. Martin and contacts with him as state superintendent. 05:05-06:25 Ginger's views about politics and education in Kentucky 06:25-08:45 Ginger's race for state Superintendent of Education 08:45-11:15 Ginger's opinion of Dr. Martin's move to act as campaign manager while state Superintendent. 11:15-12:45 Ginger's views about politics and education in Kentucky 06:25-08:45 Ginger's race for State Superintendent of Education 08:45-11:15 Ginger's opinion of Dr. Martin's move to act as campaign manager while state superintendent 11:15-12:45 Ginger's recollection of Dr. Martin's performance as state superintendent 12:45-13:55 Minimum Foundation Program- Dr. Martin's participation in its establishment. 13:55-16:0 Ginger's recollection concerning Dr. Martin's appointment as President of Eastern Kentucky University 16:0-18:20 Ginger compares Dr. Martin with former Eastern President O'Donnell. 18:20-20:50 Ginger compares former President Donovan with Dr. Martin 20:50-25:0 Dr. Martin's relationship with Dr. Dickey of the University of Kentucky; and his relationship with Dr. Oswald and Dr. Singletary. 25:0-26:45 Dr. Martin's relationship with Adron Doran of Morehead. 26:45-35:30 Ginger discusses Dr. Martin's role with the Council on Public Higher Education- The competition for money between elementary, secondary, and higher education. 35:30-36:45 Dr. Martin's relationship with Bert Combs, A.B. Chandler, Louie Nunn, Wendell Ford. 36:45-40:30 Dr. Martin's strengths and abilities at Eastern 40:30 End of side 1 Side 2 0-05:50 Pause in Tape 5:50-07:35 Ginger discusses Dr. Martin's philosophy of education 07:35-08:30 Dr. Martin's relationship with the press 08:30-11:0 Dr. Martin's personality 11:0-13:40 Ginger talks about Dr. Martin's possible contribution to the state legislature 13:40 End of Tape Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh061-ginger.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh061-ginger.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 061 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 11/15/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Lyman Ginger, a native Kentuckian, was born in 1907. He received his A.B. at Kentucky Wesleyan College and his M.A. and Ed.D. at the University of Kentucky. From 1929-39 he was a teacher and coach at Winchester High School. He then served as principal at Owingsville Consolidated School from 1939-42. Mr. Ginger then served in various capacities at University High School in Lexington from 1942-54. He became Dean of College Adult and Extension Education at the University of Kentucky from 1954-56. He has served as a member of the Kentucky High School Athletic Board of Control and President of the NEA from 1957-58. In 1972 he served as Superintendent of Public Instruction in Kentucky. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Lyman Ginger Council on Public Higher Education education EKU Presidents Minimum Foundation Program Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Begley, Robert Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 1:01:13 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-0:50 Pause in tape 0:50-01:40 Interviewer's introduction 01:40-02:40 Pause in tape 02:40-06:0 Begley discusses how he came to be appointed to the Eastern Board of Regents 06:00-08:00 Begley's first meeting with Dr. Martin 08:00-15:05 Begley's recollections about Dr. Martin's appointment as President of E.K.U. and the role politics plays in education 15:05-17:30 Role of the Council on Public Higher Education 17:30-21:05 Dr. Martin's role with the Board of Regents and the functions of the Board as a whole. 21:05-22:30 Begley's relationship with Dr. Martin 22:30-24:35 Begley's reaction to Dr. Martin running for the state senate 24:35-34:20 Dr. Martin's priorities at Eastern 34:20-37:35 Dr. Martin's relationship with Governors Wendell Ford, Louie Nunn, Julian Carroll 37:35-39:35 Dr. Martin's relationship with Adron Doran, former President at Morehead, and other college presidents 39:35-43:40 Dr. Martin's strengths 43:40-45:35 Dr. Martin's weaknesses 45:35-47:0 Dr. Martin's relationship with the press 47:0 End of Side 1 0-01:15 Pause in Tape 01:15-03:05 Dr. Martin's relationship with the press 03:05-05:45 Begley compares Dr. Martin with other college presidents 05:45-09:25 Dr. Martin's personality 09:25-12:0 Begley compares Dr. Martin with Dr. Powell 12:0-18:0 Begley's anecdotes concerning Dr. Martin 18:0 End of Tape Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1977oh067-begley.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1977oh067-begley.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1977 OH 067 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 12/3/1977 Description An account of the resource Mr. Robert Begley is the President of Begley's Drugs company and serves as Chairman of the Board of Regents Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Robert Begley Board of Regents Council on Public Higher Education education EKU Kentucky governors Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Adams, Mabel Location The location of the interview. Tampa, Florida Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 1:02:59 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-01:10 Interviewer's introduction 01:10-03:0 Pause in Tape 03:00-07:40 Mrs. Adam's educational background and early teaching experience. 07:40-12:0 Mrs. Adams' move to Eastern Kentucky University. Her recollections concerning former President Donovan 12:0-14:50 Mrs. Adams' first encounter with Dr. Martin as her student 14:50-21:20 Mrs. Adams discusses the physical plant of Eastern during the late 1920's and early 1930's and the types of students who attended Eastern 21:20-23:0 Dr. Donovan and the changes he brought to Eastern 23:0-27:0 Mrs. Adams' impressions of Dr. Martin's accomplishments 27:0-37:0 Mrs. Adams' recollections about various faculty members 37:0-39:25 Mrs. Adams recalls some of her students and their problems 39:25-40:50 The improvement of academic standards at Eastern 40:50-45:0 Mrs. Adams talks about her experiences after leaving Eastern 45:0 End of Side 1 0-01:20 Pause in Tape 01:20-05:30 Mrs. Adams reflects on the changes that occurred at Eastern during the Depression. The hardships endured by Eastern students during the early 1930's. 05:30-10:30 Restrictions placed upon co-eds, their financial status and programs established by President Donovan 10:30-12:30 Loan programs designed to help Eastern students and Mrs. Adams discusses Eastern students further 12:30-16:15 Summer session at Eastern and current events, including social activities 16:15-17:30 Latin students in Mrs. Adams' classes 17:30-19:0 Mrs. Adams life after she left Eastern 19:0 End of Tape Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1978oh001-adams.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1978oh001-adams.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1978 OH 001 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 12/30/1978 Description An account of the resource Mrs. Mabel Adams was a teacher of Latin at Eastern Kentucky University during the 1920's and 1930's. She helped write Five Decades of Progress concerning the history of Eastern Kentucky University. Mrs. Adams was a very good friend of Robert R. Martin. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Mabel Adams EKU Great Depression Latin Physical Plant Retirement Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Gorman, Polly Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) :44:06 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-0:40 Interviewer's introduction 0:40-03:10 Pause in Tape 03:10-04:30 Gorman's background 04:30-08:00 First encounter with Dr. Martin and the various duties that she assumed. Gorman becomes Dr. Martin's secretary while he was Superintendent of Public Instruction. She began working for Dr. Martin in 1956. 08:0-09:20 Dr. Martin's management of the Bert Combs campaign. Gorman helped as a secretary in the Bert Combs campaign 09:20-13:10 Gorman becomes secretary when Dr. Martin become Commissioner of Finance. Dr. Martin becomes President of EKU and Gorman remains in Frankfort, Ky. Explains her duties in Frankfort. 28:40-29:40 Dr. Martin's relationship with John Oswald and Otis Singletary. 29:40-32:0 Dr. Martin's relationship with the Council on Public Higher Education. The competition between state universities and the University of Kentucky. 32:0-34:20 Gorman describes Dr. Martin's personality 34:20-36:20 Gorman compares Dr. Powell with Dr. Martin. 36:20-37:30 Dr. Martin's relationship with the press 37:30-44:10 Gorman evaluates the highlights of the Martin administration at Eastern End of side 1 0-01:0 Pause in tape 01:0-01:5 Final Comments Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1978oh002-gorman.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1978oh002-gorman.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1978 OH 002 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2/2/1978 Description An account of the resource Mrs. Polly Gorman worked as Dr. Martin's secretary while he was Superintendent of Public instruction in 1956. She also helped Dr. Martin in the Bert Combs gubernatorial campaign. Mrs. Gorman then became Dr. Martin's secretary while he was Commissioner of Finance and later at Eastern Kentucky University. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Polly Gorman Politics Robert R. Martin Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Description An account of the resource Robert R. Martin, born in 1911 in Lincoln County, served as state superintendent of public instruction, president of Eastern (1960-1976), and state senator from Kentucky's Twenty-second district. Martin and his friends and associates were interviewed, including Wendell P. Butler, Tim Lee Carter, A.B. "Happy" Chandler, Earle C. Clements, Bert T. Combs, Adron Doran, Louie B. Nunn, Carl D. Perkins, Edward F. Prichard, Jr., and many teachers at Eastern. They focus on the life and career of Martin, his influence on higher and public education in Kentucky, and the history of Eastern during its tremendous growth years of the 1960s and 1970s. Title A name given to the resource Robert R. Martin Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview. Ellis, William E. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed. Taylor, Leonard Location The location of the interview. Richmond, KY Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) :55:24 Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview 0-0:45 Interviewer's introduction 0:45-01:50 Pause in tape 01:50-03:10 Mr. Taylor's background, educational and work experience 03:10-04:10 First recollections of Martin 04:10-06:40 State funding of schools, the Minimum Foundation Program and the role Dr. Martin played in its development 06:40-10:35 Dr. Martin's years as Superintendent of Public Instruction. Dr. Martin descrived as a progressive leader in education. Taylor compares Dr. Martin with past Superintendents of Public Instruction 10:35-11:25 Dr. Martin's relationship with Wendell Butler 11:25-12:0 Dr. Martin's involvement in the Combs campaign 12:0-13:45 Taylor reflects on Dr. Martin's appointment to Eastern 13:45-16:35 Taylor compares Dr. Martin with O'Donnell, the former President of Eastern 18:10-18:40 Taylor assesses Dr. Martin's financial abilities 18:40-20:20 Education and politics in Kentucky 20:20-21:35 Taylor's opinion about the Council of Public Higher Education 21:35-22:50 Taylor's duties as the Registrar at Eastern 22:50-24:20 Dr. Martin's relationship with Taylor 24:20-25:20 Dr. Martin's philosophy of education 25:20-26:10 Taylor compares Dr. Martin to other College presidents 26:10-27:10 Taylor describes Dr. Martin's personality 27:10-28:30 Taylor relates some anecdotes 28:30 End of Tape Restrictions A notation on restrictions placed by the interviewee. no XML This field is for OHMS XML files 1978oh010-taylor.xml Indexer Aaron Moore OHMS Object This field contains the OHMS Hyperlink (link to the XML file within the OHMS Viewer). https://omeka.eku.edu/ohms-viewer/render.php?cachefile=1978oh010-taylor.xml Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 1978 OH 010 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2/16/1978 Description An account of the resource Mr. Leonard Taylor was the registrar at Eastern Kentucky University. He is a native Kentuckian from Ohio County. He graduated with an M.A. from the University of Kentucky. He retired from his registrar position in 1976. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Contact <a href="mailto:archives.library@eku.edu">Special Collections and Archives</a>, Crabbe Library, Eastern Kentucky University for reproductions, rights and permission to publish. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Leonard Taylor education EKU Minimum Foundation Program Registrar's Office Robert R. Martin